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Discussion in 'Plymouth' started by notDistantGreen, Nov 28, 2012.

  1. notDistantGreen

    notDistantGreen Well-Known Member

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    The appointment of Colin Sexstone was warmly welcomed by all of us as bringing in someone with the track record to inject some football wisdom into a board which was otherwise short of it. He's has a few days to look at the club from the inside and his first comments are therefore interesting.

    Here's a selection:

    "Since my appointment, I have had the chance to get to know the club, including talking with Carl Fletcher, whose passion and commitment for his task are quite striking."

    Sexstone says sacking Fletcher is not an option, and bringing in a director of football is not designed to try to force the former Argyle captain out of the club. "Continuity, from my experience, is very important ,"he said. "Just changing the whole management structure, and with it often the players, doesn't necessarily bring you success, it can make your problems worse."

    I've sure I've read something similar to that second bit only recently, where was it now?

    Who's going to be the first to do an about-face on Sexstone and say "he would say that, wouldn't he?"
     
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  2. Greenarmyjoe

    Greenarmyjoe Well-Known Member

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    Another idiot ,that makes 2 of them
     
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  3. mexijan

    mexijan Active Member

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    Damn too slow I was goingput my money on Joe too :tongue:
     
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  4. WestCountrylalala

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    Distant you are beginning to sound like another know-it-all, his name? Devonsurfer <laugh>
     
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  5. sensiblegreeny

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    He's just arrived so he is hardly going to come in slagging off everyone is he notdistant. So "he would say that wouldn't he" actually sounds about right. Perhaps he just reads the same newspapers as you do though. We clearly should never have employed Sturrock all those years ago when we were second bottom of league 2 should we. We should have persisted with the set up they had then and all would have been well. Loyalty or whatever you call it to the current manager is all important. Now where are we in the league????? Oh yes I know almost in the same place we were then but for a point.
     
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  6. Greenarmyjoe

    Greenarmyjoe Well-Known Member

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    Distant, perhaps you should apply for a place on the board as you know it all? You could run the Club with all your experience in Football management, business :biggrin:.
    You could do all the stats, they would save a lot money as you can do it and know it all. :biggrin:

    Contact that other prick Webb... :confused:
     
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  7. notDistantGreen

    notDistantGreen Well-Known Member

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    Exactly my point Sensible and Sexstone's, changing the manager, 3 times since Sturrock Mark 2, has made no difference, we're still in the bottom half of League 2. Until somebody is allowed a reasonable period of time to sort things out, we'll stay there too.

    The "he would say that wouldn't he" is pretty lame as it the remark about reading the papers. Now I freely admit I get my information second hand but everyone thought Sexstone was just the man for the job, what was it, 2 days ago? Now he's a toady who gets his information from newspaper articles? If only Bristol City had known he was a fraud in the 10 years he spent there....
     
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  8. sensiblegreeny

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    I haven't lauded his appointment as far as i know notdistant. The only plus people are giving him is that at least he has some experience in the football world which is quite unique at Argyle at the moment. My point exactly is that by changing the manager all those years ago led to our successful spell. Without changing the manager at that time may well have led to our fall from the league just like it could now by not doing it. If we had a bit of time to spare then it might be worth giving Fletcher some but I don't think we have. He has absolutely no record or achievement. Even last season he had his hand held when the results got better. His hand is now free and look where we are. Says it all for me.
     
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  9. Plymborn

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    A few years in mid-table I would reluctantly settle for......but bumping along near relegation is all that Fletcher seems able to do.....maybe that's all he is capable of.
     
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  10. notDistantGreen

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    So Sturrock Mark1 was one good managerial appointment out of ..... how many Sensible?

    Remember I pointed out less than 1 in 10 of managerial changes make a noticeable improvement so if you look back I think you may make my point for me.

    And don't forget Sturrock took 4 years to do what he did....
     
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    Four years maybe notDistant....with continual upward mobility during that time,but not the dross that we are subjected to today ...but Sturrock Mk 2 had different circumstances and a different approach from his bosses that let him go on at least a year too long maybe they were hoping that the midas touch would return.....hindsight is a wonderful gift to have........oh to have it now so we could see the next six months.
     
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  12. notDistantGreen

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    Not really 4 years of steady progress Plymborn; firstly he took over at a club that had finished 12th in League 2 the season before, not plummeting straight to oblivion as was the case with Fletcher.

    All Sturrock was able to do in his first year [which was a full season] was to finish 12th also, exiting both the FA Cups & the League Cup in Round 1. Mind you, that sounds damn good at present.

    It was in his 2nd year, 2nd full season, that the blue touch paper was lit...... and that was the best period of management this club's seen in living memory.
     
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  13. sensiblegreeny

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    You won't convince me notdistant with stats and the like. I want Fletcher gone and for me that is end of discussion really. I do not think we could do worse that's for sure and any improvement even if only slight would be better than exists now. I am not daft enough to believe that just because we did a rapid rise once that a magic wand exists to propel us upwards again in the same way. I would hope it could happen twice but would not stake my house on it and hope would be all it was. I think that with Fletcher we will always struggle and there will be no sign of improvement ever.
     
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  14. notDistantGreen

    notDistantGreen Well-Known Member

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    I do not think we could do worse

    I wish you hadn't said that as it's certainly a hope rather than a fact!
     
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    It's an opinion notdistant as with all of the comments on here and no more. I firmly believe that Fletcher is as bad as it gets for us and virtually anyone else could not be worse.
     
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