Mafia 4

To be fair, if Milk's telling the truth, then one of the biggest things we learned was that the mafia are too stupid to read the character descriptions

Or they thought it was worth the risk of a shootout, which would make you wonder why Milk was such a top target (just because he's the vigilante?)

Or Milk's not telling the truth.

 

Either of those 3 are possible.
The paper may shed some light.

If Lucaas is mafia, then we know it was hacked on Day 2. Mafia only get one hack right? So we know the paper can be trusted if Lucaas turns out to be mafia, also, if he is their recruiter, and we kill him, we know they won't be able to recruit the journo any more.

If Lucaas is innocent, that means Milk is mafia, and the paper wasnt hacked on Day 2. In which case we cannot trust the paper 100% since the mafia still have their hack.

 

Tbf they probably had no way of knowing Milk was the vigilante. Maybe they pinged him as having a role, but hoped that it was journo or detective.

The alternative, as you say, is that Milk is not telling the truth. It is quite suspicious that Lucaaas was the one investigated the first day and found to be innocent, and then fingered by Milk as the recruiter. Could be a Mafia plot to make us target an innocent and cause some confusion around the journo, or could just be the Mafia used their hack early.

The only way it makes sense, imo, for Milk to pull this kind of trick is if the Mafia powers increase by the day. So if Milk is lying we waste a day today lynching an innocent Lucas, then lynch a guilty Milk tomorrow. But in those two evenings the Mafia could recruit two members and assassinate two townies, giving them a 4-3 win. So Milk could be throwing himself to the wolves for the benefit of his team, like Bisc did on day one.

But then Milk can easily be disproved if the real vigilante identifies themselves. So once again, vigilante if you are out there please speak up!

 

Good point.

 

If there is a different vigilante wouldn't they be better to keep quiet and just shoot Milk tonight?

 

Can't tell you anything specific (great accusation tactic, I know). I just reread the whole thread, this time knowing that BRB, MITO and Gerrez are innocent (and myself, but that doesn't really tell me anything new), that IBWT is mafia, and bearing in mind the Lucaaas/Milk situation. Just based on the timing of votes, the situation when you change votes, or suggest that we try different strategies and look at different people etc. It doesn't paint you in a good light.

 

Unless Lucaaas is the vigilante and we lynch him before he can shoot Milk. But again, that's a pretty sure-fire way of proving Milk is mafia. Unless they just want to gain time.

 

Probably, if there is another vigilante (ie the real one), then revealing himself would be a bad move, as the mafia will just take him out tonight if he does that.

 

Tbh the fact the Mafia targeted Milk makes the whole thing quite suspicious imo. Out of 10 possible townies to recruit (couldn't choose Sky obviously), they chose the one person who could identify them.

I personally didn't see any specific behaviour by Milk or anyone else to make them a target for recruitment, so it's basically a 10% chance of this happening at random. Whereas if they want to delay us and confuse us for a while then it's an easy set up for the Mafia as they can point the finger at Lucaaas and claim the paper was hacked on day one.

Tho' (I know I'm banging on about this ) the only way they can pull it off is if they can stop the actual vigilante from posting to disprove Milk's story. The only players to have posted since Milk's claim are:

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Milk
Lucaaas
Swarbs
Bod
Nozzer
Billy
Valley
So with Sky as the cop and none of the above claiming to be the vigilante, it's either RHC or danilo, or it is in fact Milk.

 

DAY 3 UPDATE

Your newspaper arrives. Morocco are no longer hosting the ACON. Some celebrity gossip. The following notice catches your eye:

Following an exclusive Knosuj Times investigation, Mummy has been found to be, and have always been, just a regular town folk.

In other news, Lucaaas is still a full-kit ****er and also a member of a secret society dedicated to depraved acts with badgers.

There are currently 3 mafia and 8 town people.

 

Possibly, but then we lose Lucaaas as well, and if Milk is the hacker then Mafia can still recruit and assassinate. So we lose three townies and Mafia loses one milk.

Remember the vigilante can defend themselves against assassination, so if they speak up then they won't necessarily be targeted - the mob may be wary of losing their assassin when they know everyone who is innocent, and can hit any other target without risk.

Also Sky may be allowed to act now that non lynch killings have taken place, and he may lock Milk up.

 

As Mafia previous game I can give a reason to target Milk..,..he is intelligent and understands the game.

 

This. If you're looking to recruit someone, I think Milk would be one of the prime targets.

 

Milk as ordinary town, so neither vigilante nor mafia, is interesting. Could be because if he was vigilante and now has no bullets left, he counts as ordinary town. Astro, is that something you can comment on?

The Lucaaas wording is slightly cryptic - are the freemasons also full-kit ****ers dedicated to depraved acts with badgers?

 

We have no way of letting him know, our only options are the same as yours; PM or in a thread

 

ADDITIONAL UPDATE

The recent killings on the island have not gone unnoticed by the mainland. Nor has the fact that the town cop has neglected his duties. Skylarker* has been stripped of his duties and summonded to the mainland for questioning. Sir Tennisball has been sent as his replacement and takes his position with immediate effect.

There are currently 3 mafia and 8 town people.

 

Cool, now we have an actual cop

 

Umm...so what do we make of this?
If Milk is a townie, then why would he be framing Lucaas? That doesnt make sense?
Unless this article is hacked, in which case yesterdays article wasnt hacked, which means Lucaas is innocent?

I am confused now....

 

Ok, sounds reasonable.

So the paper now says Milk is innocent, which is not much use. Mafia could have hacked yesterday to say Lucaaas is innocent, or could have hacked today to say Milk is innocent.

Still left with the real vigilante to take one for the team...

 

Options:

Day 1 was hacked, Day 2 is true. Lucaaas therefore mafia, Milk therefore innocent and apparently powerless. The report may have been written before Milk revealed himself (but short timeframe) so the journalist didn't want to reveal the role, or, as Milk has no killing bullets left, it was reported as ordinary town. If the journalist knew that Milk had claimed to be vigilante and also received this information, not sure why they didn't confirm it.

Day 1 was true, Day 2 hacked. Lucaaas is innocent. Milk probably mafia. Could be that both are innocent, but seems unlikely as that wouldn't really explain Milk's claims.

I think it means we can rule out both of them being mafia though, unless the mafia have gained an extra hack.