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Lust worryingly quiet

Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by Eireleeds1, Jul 9, 2012.

  1. Eireleeds1

    Eireleeds1 Well-Known Member

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    Hasnt been a peep from Lust in last few days as far as I'm aware. Worrying thing is if the buyout collapses or has collapsed, our goose will be well cooked. Last week Leicester expected Peltier to be a Leeds player within 48 hours but it didn't happen. Paddy Kenny was expected to sign a week ago and nothing still. Same story with the Portsmouth duo. Only a matter of time until these signings at hijacked. If there's nothing soon, Warnock may as well cancel the Cornwall trip as all hell have is a bunch of transfer listed hasbeens to make up a team.
     
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  2. Old Peacock

    Old Peacock Well-Known Member

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    Don't worry be happy....

    Plus he is old and can not live forever....
     
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  3. ristac

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    They have replied to a few comments on their facebook page. One I found posted last Friday in regards to someone having concerns read as follows:

     
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  4. Eireleeds1

    Eireleeds1 Well-Known Member

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    In my humble opinion, Thursday or Friday look the likely days for finalising the buyout. It'll be the fifth anniversary since Bates screwed the creditors so no need for any further compensation after that according to some rumours. Also ticket office closed on Friday. Here's hoping
     
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  5. FORZA LEEDS

    FORZA LEEDS Well-Known Member

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    As it stands, Leeds United are in purgatory.

    Heaven or hell awaits us.
     
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  6. 666 & Elmo

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    It's not the end of the world if the timing of the buyout is delayed. Don't understand why people think it is.

    The key thing is to have certainty so everyone knows what they have to do next.

    If we miss our current targets and get the buyout later there will be other targets.

    If the buyout falls through we would never have been realistically going to get those players anyway so it is no different to current.
     
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  7. Doc

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    Would love to know just how many season tickets we've sold so far. Most people were shafted with the early sale deduction as they never saw what was coming. Many felt that if they had have known that we would be selling yet more players and be battling relegation they wouldn't have bought.

    Now the sale that came unexpectedly is great news, but the longer it goes on, the less time Warnock has to bring in some quality. Remember he wanted to have 2 or 3 already in weeks ago. If this sale collapses we're goosed big time and will fight relegation. If the sale isn't finalised until August, we're goosed until January.

    If the sale happens this week, and it turns out to be a good news owner with cash, then season ticket sales will increase. Without the sale happening I only see administration because of Bates property developing plan and asset stripping, with even more fans not bothering
     
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  8. ristac

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    It is obvious that Warnock is building a squad based on having no funds, Pearce was probably from the sale of Howson and after that it is only spend what you save. Two free signings in Drury and Green and I would imagine Peltier, Norris and Varney if they sign as expected then that will be from the sale of Clayton and saved wages on the previously released players. It looks like we will only get Kenny when a buyer comes in for Lonergan and then it will take the sale of McCormack to bring in the next batch of targets.

    I just hope when it happens Warnocks targets up it a notch, if it doesn't happen there is no more harm done than if it had never got to first base in the first place, we would have still been in the ****. The only positive we could take from it not happening is the media attention and the alert to other possible investors that we are here and waiting to be brought.

    @Doc - As long as the sale goes through before the window closes I believe Warnock will have time to bring in two new faces that could make a big difference (assuming before then we obtain his other targets like Varney, Norris and Peltier).
     
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  9. Eireleeds1

    Eireleeds1 Well-Known Member

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    Do you really think any other investors will bother with us if this falls through? A month of due diligence costing current one a fortune only for the thing to collapse. I can't see anyone else bothering. Lots of clubs for sale I'm sure and with far less complicated structures than ours
     
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  10. ristac

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    Not this season I can't but yes I can in the near future. The only danger would be relegation, if we were to slip back down to Divison one then no, I can see it being a different story.
     
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  11. bucks_is_leeds

    bucks_is_leeds Jonny big spuds
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    I dont think Varney and Norris are as good as Clayton & McCormack. I can only hope Warnocks doing what he can with his limited funds & this takeover happens freeing up some money for the real quality to come in. If the take over doesnt happen or funds arent realeased we will be in for a long season battling at the wrong end of the table.
     
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  12. ristac

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    Morning Bucks - I think the opposite, I think Warnock is playing it safe as if there is no take over happening. I could not agree more that Clayton and McCormack are better than Norris and Varney however I have seen reports that Varney and Norris would cost under 500K. This would be about what we received for Clayton meaning a sale of McCormack would bring in around 1.5M for new signings.

    I can't help feel that Warnock is building a team as if we were going into the new season with Bates still in charge then when/if the T/O happens he can go out and splash the cash on a couple of quality players that will make a difference. I am assuming we get Norris, Varney and Peltier and I am assuming we sell McCormack and spend the money on a quality winger. I feel NW is building a squad of players who are no nonsense battlers - IF the T/O happens then we will see the star quality come in...
     
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  13. Doc

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    If the sale collapses, then so does our season. Bates is in dire straits with his finance plans due to gates falling and lack of season ticket sales. He's screwed up and he knows it, and thats the only reason he's looking for investors now. Administration will be on the cards without doubt, so minus 10 points and probable relegation due to a shyte squad and there you have it.

    If I was one of these potential buyers, who are rumoured to be hanging around, why would I want to deal with Bates when he gave exclusivity to another buyer. I would sit back and watch the club go into administration, just to spite Bates for rejecting my initial offer. I would then make damn sure I picked up the club whilst in administration for a much cheaper price. Bates is a joke, but has milked us dry. Batessavedusmyfuckingarse
     
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  14. ristac

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    You wouldn't want to pick it up in the first division though, you would want the best possible chance of a promotion this coming season to capture as much as the lucrative income promotion to the premier league would give us.
     
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  15. Doc

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    Ristac, If Bates snubbed you because he thought he could get more elsewhere, why would you want to bail him out of a hole. The season would already be written off because of missing the transfer window whilst the original deal was being put together. No chance of salvaging the season with the existing squad, so why pay top dollar for something you can get for less than half the original asking price you were willing to pay. Buy it cheap, even if in L1 but guarantee promotion back to the champs next season followed by another one the next season. Buying it late in the season would still mean promotion doesn't happen, so may as well save a few million and get to the prem at exactly the same time
     
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  16. ristac

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    I disagree, you still have loans and the January transfer window to play with and you are hoping to attract players to a league one side? We already know it is harder in reality than on paper to get out of that division at the first attempt.
     
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  17. Josh-LUFC

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    Doc your not thinking like a businessman. They wouldn't care, they would want the best possible deal and they know so does Bates so I doubt there would be any hard feelings, it just means they maybe able to offer less money or something.
     
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  18. Eireleeds1

    Eireleeds1 Well-Known Member

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    Please don't mention that awful word loans. We've had over 100 of them since Bates took over and loads before that. What had they in common? 99.99% of them were absolute ****e. The January transfer window is not all its cracked up to be either. As most managers say, clubs don't want to do business in January except to offload their crap. If we don't do the business in the next six weeks, well be writing off another season
     
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  19. Josh-LUFC

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    Eric Lichaj, Sanchez Watt (first time), Gradel, O''Brien

    These were all good loans and I put about 5 seconds of thought into it. Admittedly there are more that go wrong than right but still...
     
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  20. ellandback

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    Josh, once AOB signed for us, it was downhilllll
     
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