Watched Micks post match interview and when asked about his future he said that Marcus is happy and wants Mick to stay, and Mick went on to say how much he loves it here So looks like he's staying but I do wonder that if Marcus is so happy for him to stay why hasn't he offered a new contract yet And if he does stay is Marcus going to give Mick a credible war chest but even then I couldn't trust Mick to use it well. His football style is never going to change If Mick do stay I don't think I will bother going any more I'm sure the club won't be bothered if more people give it a miss but it's too depressing to watch the crap football that is dished up like I said all the signs and statements coming out of PR Micks staying Very down atm
I found this slightly odd too, if we have an option, surely it would be simple as a phone call, does nobody any favours to drag it out. It suggests one or both parties aren't happy with some aspects
The fact is regardless of style of football, on paper he has done a good job, bar last season. I have no problem as long as he gets some proper investment to give him that pressure of achieving a top 6 finish. Another season of the same will surely just lead to further drop in ticket sales. What is it down to now, 11,000!
If he stays nothing will change,regardless of what budget he's given.Its just not in the man's nature to adapt.Please leave now you dinosaur.
Well on the basis that - * Evans isn't going to put his hand in his pocket especially. * This is Mick's squad. * SURELY we cannot have as much bad injury luck next season * The fact a new manager would want - or be very likely to want to completely overhaul the squad. * And finally - not that we're going to do it - but with 12 to play, given the injuries we've had our season is not yet done. Bookies had us down for a relegation dogfight this season - it's never happened. Granted, them four wins at the start of the season has helped massively and really helped keep us up the table until December - I actually think we've overachieved this season to date. Granted - there is clearly the ' relationship ' between Mick and supporters which is beyond repair with many. If he stays, gates are likely to be majorly down. That's certain. That said, 14/15 when people were moaning, when we were 2nd H to Charlton around boxing day we managed to get 26,500 through the turnstyles. Funny that. He was a dinosaur back then - I think if he managed to get massive success again - people would come back. However, that's massively unlikely given Evans spend. I actually think it's probably - given all factors - makes the most sense for Mick to stay. Up to the two of them to do as they please.
I don't think Marcus will do himself any favours by giving Mick a new contract and dragging this whole ordeal out longer than necessary. There clearly needs to be a change of philosophy around the club in how the club is operated, how it communicates and engages with supporters and the local community, and also how the club plays football and how highly it values playing academy footballers. Evans should be held responsible for all of the above. He has allowed the club to stagnate and the buck should stop with him regarding the loss of thousands of match-going supporters from the attendance. Mick gets us punching above our weight compared to the budget he spends, but judging from league positions, has had one very poor season, one very good season, and then the rest are mostly average or above average seasons. The entertainment factor at games is usually low, the results can be good but we are notoriously inconsistent. For me, he has outstayed his job here by two years and I haven't seen any clear indication he can take this club to the next level. If the football was actually exciting and we looked like a decent team, I'd be more receptive to giving him another chance. But that isn't the case. I honestly don't see what either party sees in prolonging this relationship. The owner is losing, and will continue to lose attendances, money, and goodwill by sticking with the incumbent. Mick isn't going to realistically achieve promotion here as he only has one play off campaign and therefore struggles within the budget he has been given. For reasons partly brought about by his behaviour and partly by the entitlement and cynicism of some supporters in the ground who have been against him from the start, the relationship between Mick and most of the supporters has been poisoned and looks irreparable.
The fact that his excuse for football has driven so many fans away and those that still attend are calling for him to go should really tell you something,just go now man and feck all this “be careful what you wish for” BS.
If we are in this division next year, then Mick is going, guaranteed . I think it's only being prolonged whilst we have any chance of a play off.
Any new manager worth having would want to overhaul the squad as has already been said, anyone who accepted the post on the same terms as MM would just be grateful for a job and therefore not what our Club needs in my opinion. I think its fairly obvious that Evans isn't going to change his " business plan " for ITFC so it seems logical that its going to be more of the same next season whoever the manager is. Our current loan players who have done quite well for us will be gone, Carayol if he continues to perform when properly fit will want a decent contract if hes to stay which is unlikely because Evans will offer him next to nothing, McG in all likelihood will be gone and maybe a few others, Adeyemi ( remember him) might get fit enough to play now and then but don't count on it, Huws, Bishop,and Hyam cant be relied upon so the cupboard really does look bare. Would MM benefit from a reasonable transfer budget? I think he would, would we have had a better season if we hadn't been decimated by long term injuries to so many players? yes I think we would have, so do we keep what we know or do we appoint a new manager who is prepared to work without financial backing and hope that our team of mediocre players in the main suddenly flourish into promotion contenders? Some say that all they want to see is open attacking football every week, personally I have no desire to see us losing 7 goal thrillers on a regular basis that's not what successful Clubs do. I don't care who the manager is but while we are stuck with our current useless owner a dose of realism is needed here.
That all sounds well and good FM, but the only way the club is going to get bums back onto the seats is if we are successful (in winning games and challenging for play offs). Unfortunately under MM, this will never happen happen, as winning games under his style of football cannot be sustained over a whole season. Even if we had a full strength squad for the whole season, he would still play negative football. He(we) did well in 14/15 because we hadn't been found out then. We got lucky with Murphy's goals, and even though we made the play offs, we were still playing football which was more focused on stopping the other team. If somehow we managed to go on a winning run til the end of the season, then the attendances will increase, because football fans are an extremely fickle bunch. If come April we are somehow a couple of points off of 6th, i guarantee you our attendances would be closer to 19/20k. I've no idea what my point is though LOL
Exactly this - people can have their nickers in a twist until kingdom come - but I can pretty much guarantee when he does go ( and if he is to go this summer, I'll accept it's run it's course and support the new gafa ) we are still going to have massive problems given the spend Evans is laying out to achieve anything.
Point 1) If we win a game: Mick is staying and everything is great. If we lose a game: Mick will look at his future in the summer and the supporters might get their way. Conclusion: Mick is 13 years old. Point 2) NOTHING could be worse than the monotony of spending 20 years at this level and having **** football served up for 5 years - soon to be 10 years - in a row. So Mick staying is the absolute worst case scenario. Relegation and restructuring would be preferable. Point 3) If Roy Keane had been manager for 10 years we would have been in the Premier League by now. The man had ambition, which is the ingredient that we are completely lacking under McCarthy. If you have knowledge, determination and ambition then the budget isn't so important. Just ask Alf Ramsey and Bobby Robson. I really would love to see an old hand like Terry Butcher assisted by Kieron Dyer. At this point we really need to start with getting the heart back into the football club and the style of play right and whether we go up, down or sideways in any given season if we had that about us then eventually success would follow.
Roy Keane knowledge? promotion? This is a joke surely, Keane is the reason we are starved of funds now Martin, Priskin, to name but two who cost millions and were nowhere near Championship quality, the standard of football was poor and we were only going one way, that's why he was sacked. Jewell followed and we know to our cost what he did to our Club before doing the decent thing and resigning, he hadn't been employed as a manager for two years before Evans employed the Sky TV personality and to my knowledge has never worked in football management since, nice bloke but clueless. What short memories some people have.
Also agree with fieldmarshall regarding Roy Keane. For me, Keane was one of the worst managers we've had at this club and he was responsible for taking a side that had consistently finished in and around the play offs to lower mid-table and regular fights against relegation. Keane cared more about himself and his own reputation in the game than the club and he squandered millions of pounds on has-beens and former Sunderland mates looking for a final pay cheque. He even hated the fact we played in blue shirts, the man was deluded and not the right fit at Portman Road at all. Roy Keane may well have personal ambition, as he proved during his successful playing career, but his mindset and that particular quality did not translate to his Ipswich Town side that showed just about enough passion and ability to narrowly avoid relegation for two to three years. Sacking Keane when we did was arguably one of Evans' finest decisions, because I think if we had persisted with Keane for the rest of that 2010/11 season, we would have dropped to League One. If we had persisted with him for longer than what we did and showed faith in his abilities, I think we would realistically be in League One rather than the Premier League, resembling a club like Phil Brown's old Southend side, made up of old pros and the occasional big name charlie looking for a move up a division or two.
That's my take on it as well.. I think he'll be here next season, but there are some question marks on how the contract will look as both parties probably want to amend the current deal rather than just extend it again.. (Which would have happened by now if that was the case) Mick - I'm sure will want assurances on playing budget Marcus - Will likely be looking to either change the length or value of Mick's contract (or his coaching staff) Either way, we could have some negotiations going on behind closed doors with no announcement for months..
I'd have to agree with Yorkie in regards to Keane - yes, one of the worst performing managers we've had, but i think given time he would've got us a lot more competitive then Mick has - BUT, he would've demanded a much bigger budget to attract better quality players. Unfortunately it didn't work out for us getting too many mercenaries - one or two, yes, experience is always good in a team, but not as many as we had.
Cannot believe that people have the view that Keane would have turned things around... Not only that, but he'd be better than Mick if he was still here.. I am not a huge fan of Mick, but can appreciate the job he's done in difficult circumstances, certainly circumstances that Keane would have simply walked away from. Plus we would have been in the bracket of Forest, Charlton, Portsmouth and QPR in terms of crazy spending with absolutely nothing to show for it, with likely financial penalties or huge cost cutting (more severe than we have now) to deal with such frivolous spending and could have tumbled down the leagues as a consequence of Roy's time with us. Now clearly Jewell was at best equally inept and therefore compounded Roy's blunders, which he could have limited somewhat but we were heading down a very slippery slope which thankfully has been corrected before it was terminal
Has anyone else entrusted Keane to be in sole charge of another Club since he left us all those years ago?
Right - lets clear one thing up. While Mick has his issues - and clear as day he has a few - to suggest a Mr Keane would have done a lot better is one of the funniest things I've read for a long long time. April 1 is a month away.
