Agree there, Evo looks far better. A mate has owned about 6/7 different Subaru's and while they're fun I wouldn't want to own one.
Yeah, it would. Tyson has this rep of being a ferocious battler, which of course he was. But what is often overlooked is how hard he worked on his technique, particularly in the early days when, in Kevin Rooney and Teddy Atlas, he was working with two of the best trainers/cornermen in the business. Tyson's movement was actually as good as that of any heavyweight you will ever see, He spent hours every day just learning to dip and move, dip and move, taking punches on his shoulders whilst closing down the ring on his opponent. In the early days no one could lay a glove on him, which is incredible seeing as he was giving away height, weight and reach almost every time he got in the ring. Factor in his ability to throw lightening speed combinations without exposing himself, and you have one of the most technically proficient and intelligent boxers of the 20th Century. After Cus D'Amato died, Tyson began to self destruct, spurred on by an army of hangers on. But during that short period when he unified the division, no one could touch him - and I'm not convinced a peak form Ali would have done either.
This technique comes from hours of hard work, every day. He's wrapped up tight like a like a time bomb here. Absolute economy of movement and energy - I don't care who you are, this Mike Tyson is up in your grill before you have time to breath...
He wouldn't have seen Ali coming. Frazier was a better fighter than Tyson but Ali was the best Boxer.
Absolutely wrong mate, sorry. Tyson won two Junior Olympic Golds and Heavyweight Gold at the LA Olympics. If you understood the sport, then you'd realise that a comment like "wouldn't have seen Ali coming" simply doesn't stand up
I love Ice Cube but as an artist and an MC Eminems shreds him. It's not cool to like the white boy. People don't like to give Eminem props because he's winning at a black man's game. Lyrically he's incredible, I'd have him up there with Biggie and Nas. This song was a huge moment for Em, going on track with Jay-Z, a rap juggernaut and he manages to take the whole spotlight, Jay-Z will never get over it, he was 'murdered on his own song'.
Sorry mate don't agree, Tyson was a fighter and inferior to guys like Frazier but a question many people ask. Tyson destroyed opponents in lightning quick fashion. He paced like a caged animal and sneered at his opponents while crowing that he wanted to "eat their children", Aliesque if you like. I saw both men fight and to be honest Tyson was not in the same league as Ali. Not even that close a decision. Ali fought against the best heavyweights in the history of the sport and three of them probably hit harder than Tyson (Foreman, Liston and Shavers). Ali fought brutal bouts against Frazier and Norton absorbing punishment that would easily have dropped Tyson. So lets agree to disagree.
Fair enough, we'll agree to differ then. However, the "wouldn't see Ali coming" quip was still plain wrong. There is a saying that a good boxer will always beat a good fighter, but it's meaningless here because Ali, Foreman, Frazier and Tyson could all box, and they good all battle. I think you - like many people - massively underestimate Iron Mikes technical abilty, and the extent to which he mastered his craft. But I'll allow you that opinion.[/QUOTE]
