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Leeds v Derby highlights

Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by LeedsLover, Sep 21, 2019.

  1. LeedsLover

    LeedsLover Well-Known Member

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    First half we played some good football, we completely dominated Derby. The commentator was in awe of our amount of possession.

    By rights, we should've had 3 or 4 goals by halftime instead of 1 goal and umpteen nearly goals.

    Our goal was an own goal, so we never scored from open play.

    Second half we came out playing good football again, and again we had umpteen nearly goal chances.

    Klich missed a penalty which would've killed off Derby had he scored. He won't be sleeping to well tonight.

    We dropped off the pace during last third, which let Derby in to grab the equaliser right near the end, happening a bit that is. Derby actually scored their goal.

    While we played good football for most of game, I think a loss of focus and concentration during last third made us pay the price.

    3 problems for me.

    Harrison is just another Sako, he's had a season and 8 games to improve his style of play, but hasn't, and I doubt he ever will.......He should be on bench. He will get greedier as he becomes more desperate to score.

    Nearly Bamford, some peoples little darling pin up. Bamford ain't going to improve, he's always going to be a nearly scorer. He may well get a few more goals, but how many games are there going to be in between goals.

    Bamford is not a prolific goal score, if we seriously want promotion then he has to be dropped.

    Before this game many Leeds fans were calling for Nikita to start, after this game that call is going to get louder and wider.

    Of all the chances nearly Bamford had, 2 missed chances stick out, he was one yard out from goal line and hit post, and the one on one with keeper which he chipped over bar..........but not to worry, he's supposedly doing a good job elsewhere, I don't know what it is, but he must be doing it somewhere when people aren't looking.

    Phillips, our 30 million quid superstar. He had plenty of sideways and backward passes, his long balls forward rarely found a Leeds player, can't remember seeing one to be honest. His corner kicks are appalling, every game's same when it comes to his corner kicks.

    Phillips is a CM, where was he when Derby scored their goal, he was on right hand side meandering towards our penalty area...........he was caught out of position, this puts pressure on our defenders, and we paid the price.

    We're carrying Harrison, nearly Bamford and Phillips in my opinion.

    There are no grey areas in football, every team goes out to try and win, there's only black and white.

    You cannot fill in the grey areas with sentiment and emotional attachment if you want promotion.

    I can see some on here still saying same things about Harrison, Bamford and Phillips in 10/15 games time.

    Bielsa screwed up, and he'll be stubborn and screw up again and again untill someone kicks him up the arse.

    Short highlights cos there ain't much to cheer about.


    Bielsa post match interview


    Derby manager post match interview.


    Alioski, 100 games for Leeds..........great achievement.


    Alioski pre match interview


    Connors post match comments............I agree, there's a mentality problem with some players.


    AllLeedsTV post match observations


    Wainmanjoe must still be in pub drowning his and everyone else's sorrows.
     
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  2. Whitejock

    Whitejock Well-Known Member

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    @ellandback , could we possibly engage another comedian for a change? This one uses the same script every time!
     
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  3. Leedsoflondon

    Leedsoflondon Well-Known Member

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    Your comments on KP are quite embarrassing.
     
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  4. Whitejock

    Whitejock Well-Known Member

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    I think you'll find that it's impossible for him to be embarrassed as he's always right! <doh>

    It is those who disagree with him that should be embarrassed, and in most cases should be seeking help for their obvious mental health problems. Without malice, of course! <doh>
     
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  5. LeedsLover

    LeedsLover Well-Known Member

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    Don't be embarrassed, reality is reality.

    I'm interested in your opinions on how Phillips plays, and what impact he brings to team that others don't.
     
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  6. Eric Le Merde

    Eric Le Merde Well-Known Member

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    It's Youtube so it must be kosher
     
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    LeedsLover Well-Known Member

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    You can find them on almost any player on youtube....................your point is?
     
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  8. 2020VisionofLeeds

    2020VisionofLeeds Well-Known Member

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    hilarious comments on KP
     
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    Whitejock Well-Known Member

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    This is clearly a phoney, put together with CGI.

    Evidence:

    * No robotic voice
    * No side passes featured when there are 7,24,231,474 to choose from
    * Someone had to stretch to receive one of the accidental 60yd passes
    * All his lucky defensive tackles are because he's been left behind from the previous attack as he's so slow
    * Should have scored at least 600 goals from the chances in the clips
     
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    You've just made me realise what LL's problem is. It was when I saw you type the initials 'KP'. He's clearly muddling up Kalvin Phillips with Kevin Pietersen. He's disappointed 'cos Calvin doesn't hit any fours or sixes any more!
     
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    Eric Le Merde Well-Known Member

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    Just goes to show how unreliable Youtube videos are :emoticon-0105-wink:
     
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  12. LeedsLover

    LeedsLover Well-Known Member

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    Still no personal opinions on Phillips impact in the team then, can't you think of any?
     
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  13. milkyboy

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    Let me ask you a question? Do you think Kante is a good footballer? Was Batty a good footballer? Is it just Phillips or is it the position? Do you have time and appreciation for any defensive midfielder?

    I gave my comments on Phillips in one of your threads a while back, and I don't recall you responding. But here's another go.

    Phillips snuffs out a lot of attacks with good positional sense and strength in the tackle. He's adept at receiving the ball in tight situations and playing the ball quickly to the guy in space. He has excellent first touch and his awareness is excellent as he may be doing this facing his own goal. He's also excellent at moving himself in position to receive the ball from defenders in order to enable us to play out from the back. Forshaw does this very well too. Phillips always looks comfortable on the ball and has time in posession. My criticism is he's sometimes too relaxed in posession and gets caught, but it's occasional - generally he's strong in posession and hard to disposess. He occasional gets drawn to the ball and leaves space behind him - but that's the nature of a team pressing high and these things will happen.

    He plays plenty of sideways and backwards passes because that is his position and also the team strategy to move the ball around to beat the press. When he has space he has a good range of long passing.

    He helps set the tempo of the team. I don't get to many games, but he always looks more impressive in the flesh than on tv to me - example being at boro last year where he clearly orchestrated our second half battering of them.

    He's not perfect, and he's probably a yard of pace of pace from being very top draw at the highest level (though plenty in his position have done fine without it), but he's a very good footballer.

    I used to think he was rubbish when he first came into the team - and didn't think he'd make it. I was right that he was rubbish, but very wrong about whether he would make it.

    It's not a sign of weakness to admit calling something wrong. When are you going to do it, and call what you actually see, instead of manufacturing every match report into a phillips bashing to fulfil your pre-ordained agenda?
     
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  14. LeedsLover

    LeedsLover Well-Known Member

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    ok,

    "It's not a sign of weakness to admit calling something wrong. When are you going to do it, and call what you actually see,"

    Phillips is wrong for team...........................................you asked.
     
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    Thanks for your insightful response.
     
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  16. LeedsLover

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    I ain't got a problem with replying to LL bashing when it comes to Phillips.

    What you usual suspects don't seem to understand, and see is, you all do your fair share of having a go at players, yet you seem to think it's ok for you to do it, but not others, especially when it's a player you like........or should I say.......seem to be obsessed with.

    You all talk about Phillips like he's the only one holding the team together, he doesn't.

    If someone had paid 30 mill for Phillips, Leeds would've took it, that's why they upped the price, to try and get the money like they did with Wood.

    If Phillips himself thinks he's so good he would've took off to the prem, the opportunities are far greater, and the money much better, but he didn't, why?........that's the question, why didn't he?

    The prem is every players dream, playing with a big team, playing with big name players and playing against big name players, chance of playing in Europe against other big teams and big name players, and so on.

    If you think Phillips is totally dedicated to Leeds United, why did he have a clause entered into his contract that "if Leeds don't get promoted he's off", if anyone will have him of course.....................He ain't as good as what some of you think.

    Forshaw was Bielsa's first choice, Phillips only got in cos Forshaw got injured, then Bielsa moved Forshaw forward, that was a good move. Forshaw takes the ball forward and gets defences backpedaling.

    When Forshaw played CM, he would take the ball forward helping to create an attack, he would run at defences getting'em on the wrong foot, Phillips does not.

    Phillips spends most of game passing sideways, backwards or back to same player, that's why his passing stats are fairly high. Doesn't matter if a pass is 20 yards or 5 feet, sideways, backwards or back to keeper, they're all registered.

    His long balls forward very rarely reach its destination. His corners are abysmal. He can't read a game properly, that's why you find him all over place and caught out of position.

    Derby scored a goal, where was Phillips, caught out of position meandering towards our penalty area from right side. He's a CM, he should be around the middle helping out our defence when opponents are attacking.

    Against Swansea, both Dallas and Phillips stood there ball watching, he allowed a player to get away from him.

    V Stoke in Cup, he allowed Amble to get away from him and create the cross for Vokes to score, where was his strength then. Wilks out paced him against Barnsley...............if players can do it to him in championship, imagine what they'd do in Prem.

    V Forest, our 30 mill player let the ball go through his legs from a corner, which lead to a 30 mill goal for Forest. Is that what you call great awareness.

    Phillips gets pulled up for quite a few fouls, he's a yellow or red in waiting.

    Phillips gets robbed of the ball when in possession quite a lot. He's also slow a lot of the time getting back when other teams counter

    According to Dallas, Phillips bosses everyone at training, but not on the field, not even against opposition.

    Last season he went awol in quite a few games, can't read a game.

    That's what I see, which is different to what a lot of fans will see, but many fans will interpret the game differently as well.

    Phillips is not a bad player, but he's not as good as some think, and he makes a lot of mistakes many are prepared to turn a blind eye too.

    We had this same debate over Wood, Cook and Mowett, Wood and Cook are not exactly setting the prem on fire, and I said Mowett would slip down the leagues, he did, to Oxford Utd.

    Now, many are trying to make excuses for Bamford, that's what they are, excuses, cos of emotional attachment.
     
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  17. LeedsLover

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    You asked.
     
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    The only poster obsessed with Phillips is you. Every week, same old same old... as it was with wood, as it was with BPF.

    Lewis cook has had some terrible injuries. Chris wood is a starter for the least creative side in the premiership, but did get a brace at the weekend.

    Don’t know who picked mowatt for stardom but it certainly wasn’t me.

    The fact that clubs are prepared to pay multi- millions for Phillips suggests that they think he has something going for him. He didn’t go because the club felt him too important to leave. Club’s choice not Phillips.
     
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  20. LeedsLover

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    Was Phillips choice, that's why he had the clause entered in his contract.

    Stats value Phillips at around 7.5 mill.

    If clubs were prepared to pay multi millions for Phillips means he would've been gone. Fact that he's still at Leeds means clubs weren't prepared to pay Leeds asking price.

    BPF was a bad keeper who made lots of mistakes, especially positional mistakes, I don't expect you to understand that one though.

    Ayling gets too far forward and struggles to get back most of time, creates problems and pressure for our defence.

    Douglas is not a brilliant LB, Berardi is a much better RB and LB imo.

    Harrison isn't a very good winger, he wants to dribble everyone, including himself, he's greedy and his crosses aren't brilliant.

    Bamford is a nearly striker, will always be a nearly striker. Boro let him go cos he wasn't good enough, one of Ortas bad signings.

    Bamford started off at Forest, Chelsea bought him, was loaned out 7 times in 5 years at Chelsea, Boro bought him then sold him to us 18 months later. Those stats tell you a lot.

    It's not only Phillips.

    Whether Wood starts regularly or not, he ain't setting the Prem on fire as some on here believed.

    Cook wasn't a regular starter before his injury, he's on bench at moment, that may change in future.
     
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