Its seems that Wales online was only snippets, not the full transcript, as I just found this on SWEP website Clearly states the players he spoke to wanted to come to us, but it went wrong after that, now that could explain why ML and HJ have (as rumours claim) barely spoken since the summer. Maybe ML feels that the board let him down. We don't know the full story, but thats what I get from this whole thing, and with what is said there. That there then say the second instance was not a request per se, but that they would discuss it at the meeting, a meeting which according to ML, he claimed it was not the right time to discuss it with a big game in regards to the club coming up, something I agree with anyway. Anyhow, he also makes a claim that news spreads so soon after the meeting, which means something is not right, someone was leaking info. So professional of our board if what he says is right. If not, I expect our board to come out and dismiss it. I actually think he speaks very well, doesn't really insult or have a go at the club, and just says his side of the story, which he is entitled to do, without goign too far in regards to what he shouldn't say due to the ongoing situation.
I actually agree with the points you make, but unfortunately as ML is no longer part of the club, and the Board are, being STID, I will be biased towards the people still connected with the club, no matter how salient your argument is. I am trying my best to create my opinion on the facts so far, and what they are are as follows; Background facts: A) ML and the swans had their most successful season ever LAST season B) Swansea refuse to deal with ML agent C) Swansea performance against West Ham was abysmal and kept us within relegation mire. 1) The board Sack ML by email 2) The board do not allow ML to speak to players 3) ML states he does no know why 4) ML in his press conference confirm the board approached him (3 times!) saying they were not happy about the coaching 5) ML confirmed that he told the board he was not going to change anything Based on the above, I am not pursuaded that the board were wrong. Please note, everything else, e.g whether we were doing bad / average / good result wise this season can be argued either way and as such cannot be a FACT. Also issues about training / player unrest / ML not being committed are just opinions and rumours.
If the way he was given notice to quit is true then thats a pretty ****ty way of dismissing someone ,especially if they left in the morning exchanging pleasantries .Not even a face to face meeting to explain the boards actions & not a great way to treat someone imo .
Is it me or is this just Fukcing boring! Thank you laudrup for what you have done for this club, but unfortunately it didn't work out. If you have been dismissed unfairly, then you will get what's owed to you. Thank you and goodbye! END.
I have just deleted my 1000 word opinion, as it did'nt sum up my feelings as well as swan_and_only's does
It's clear from what I've read that there were issues between the board and ML, I also believe HJ has tried to save paying out a substantial compensation package to ML by using breach of contract to dismiss him. Big mistake it will prove very difficult to succeed with this action, all ML is doing is setting out his position in readiness for legal action should it happen. We all know that a long drawn out court battle will not only be extremely expensive it will also push the club into the limelight of bad publicity. The board need to reassess the situation and dismiss him on recent results, pay his contract up in full and move on. There is a lot of support for HJ and the board but don't let it cloud our judgement in this instance, it must also be remembered with the greatest respect may I add that in general our board are not financial moguls or high flying businessmen, they are in fact relatively new to all this. We should tread very carefully.
Swan I tend to agree with you on that. Looking at it and to be honest I can't be arsed to listen or see whet Laudrup has said, and to me it looks like a nice PR stunt. I thank him for the work he has done and especially our Capital One Cup win. We move on and support the Manager, Board etc
Bony also missed a proper preseason with us because of a glitch with the paperwork (where have I heard THAT before?) so was lagging behind in terms of fitness. As I remember it, Bony was put on specialised training to bring him up to speed. And, yes, Jenkins did moan about Bony's cost, so that would indicate that Bony wasn't his signing. Sad it's come down to this. I'd like to hear a response from the club but, if legislation is pending, they won't be able to say too much. I'm open minded on this because I believe in integrity. If Laudrup is at fault then he can't complain if he bombs. If the club is at fault, ditto. But whatever comes of the situation, one thing is clear. The attitude of Jenkins and the Board stinks with regard to banning Laudrup from the training ground. The implication is clear: that Laudrup must have been guilty of committing some real dastardly deeds to warrant that draconian course of action. Jenkins must have known how this would be reported, how it would reflect on Laudrup, and whatever the feelings about results and the team's lack of commitment, HE DIDN'T DESERVE THAT. It really does lack class and is petty in the extreme. And to what purpose anyway? Did Jenkins think that ML didn't have a mobile phone? Didn't he imagine that they could meet up in their own time if they so wanted? Wasn't Laudrup entitled to say so long and pass his thanks to the players he had signed such as Michu, Chico, Canas, Amat, Pozuelo, and Pablo etc? No. Jenkins knew full well what he was doing and it sucks! I don't know enough of the facts to comment on the other issues but will repeat that WHOEVER is proved to be at fault here should have their knuckles well and truly rapped - publicly in court if it comes to that.
Unless they have good reason too. This needs to come out very soon. Surely legal advisors have had enough time now to decide whether Laudrup was dismissed unfairly. We also need to know what Laudrup did to breach his contract.
Well it took the board 9 days to send out a letter of explanation so they've had to time to get the story air tight I'd imagine .
Well, Spartak was obviously a mismatch of huge proportions. The director of Mallorca was a maniac. Even Rafael Nadal and his dad, co- owner of Mallorca sold their shares and left when Laudrup left. They now play in 2. division. The reason he left Getafe was because he was told to. By Barcelona. The job as the next Barcelona manager was down to him and Pep and Barcelona at that time had a policy of not hiring managers already in a job. Backed by Getafe director Torres he took the chance but obviously didn't get it. Today he is still on good terms with Torres. So all this BS about a pattern of trouble in his career to justify his sacking at Swansea is BS. Want to fire him? Fine. But show a little respect on the way.
Surprised nobody has mentioned that he intended to stay next season. Personally I couldn't see him here next season even if wasn't sacked.
So he said he'd have stayed but you say he wouldn't , which for me sums up the whole sorry episode .so many cynics
Well not much to shout about from Laudrup here at all, so much for him saying he wants to put the lies to bed, complete not event in my view!......
Trying it on like any manager who has been rumbled would do... There is only one person responsible for his sacking and that is him, nobody else...He was useless at his job its as clear cut as that... Moaning about a letter 9 days later my aunt fanny. who does he think he is kidding......I would have sent one of the Ball boys to tell him he was sacked if it was me....The club is much happier now than it has ever been under his reign and he should be charged for putting a once organised club that he took over into the mess he left....good riddance
So you're agreeing that Laudrup used Bony correctly. Changed your mind have you? Also an argument I've heard repeatedly from the Laudrup supporters (not from you, I think) is that players are extremely well paid professionals who should need no motivation and should do their own training if the clubs fitness regime is not good enough. Presumably you also believe this argument is rubbish.
Regardless of what ML has said surely if the board wanted changes then (using my very thin knowledge of employment law) there should have been a sequence of events such as: 1) the chat - ML we're not happy with performance and feel training and staff should change. ML can disagree 2) the written warning repeating request to improve performance 3) the written dismissal Breach of contract is going to be such a subjective argument Surely once again the board felt they followed the rules but screwed up the process a la the many other occurrences of dodgy paperwork. I personally feel it's time we had some proper businessmen at the top who have had more experience with multi-million pound companies
Sousa didn't see the need to do this? ok he wasn't sacked, but was on the end of similar treatment by our Board of Directors, can't see anything coming from this at all! Pay him up Huw, and Laudrup move on please...............
