Jordan Henderson/Lee Cattermole.

Hi lads.

There's a very strong rumour going about up here that you have had a bid of £12.5 million accepted for Jordan Henderson.

To add a bit of confusion, i personally have heard that it's actually Lee Cattermole, who has a £12.3 million release clause in his contract.

Any news/similar rumours over there?

For the record, they are 2 players with great potential, but we have better players than Catts in the same position, who are younger (Colback & Meyler).

Jordan could be a great player with the right coaching, and the fact we are just about to complete the Seb Larsson deal means it ain't improbable for it to happen.

Would also fit in with the policy Liverpool have often had to get good young England players on board.

All the best lads

 

Personally I'd really like Jordan Henderson, Lee Cattermole on the other hand seems like a slightly more violent defensive midfielder than we've already got.

I hope the Jordan Henderson rumour is true, but I won't trust anything until it comes out on the official site.

 

Cattermole is actually a much better player than people who don't watch him every week get to see, if you can keep him fit.

He's not a dirty player, but he thinks he can win every tackle, even when his starting position is about 30 frigging feet away.

He could be moulded.

Jordan is a player who absoutely could be =come a Liverpool player, but it's all rumours and hearsay, there's nowt on any of the reputable sites as yet.

 

No doubt Cattermole is a good player, but he does get an awful lot of yellow cards and it'd mean him replacing Lucas which I can't see at the moment.

 

To be fair, he barely gets any yellows now, as he's always bastard injured

 

You'd do well to keep him though, I can see him going to some of the big boys if he can control himself a little better. Arsenal would definetly be a better team with him.

 

Arsenal would be a better team with anyone with some bollocks, so you're spot on there!

I'm pretty sure Catts will want to leave, before he got injured, Meyler was getting in ahead of him (Meyler is physically stronger, and much better on the ball), and at the back end of this season, Jack Colback, who is a proper Sunderland boy and fan, got a run of games due to injury, and a bit like your lad Spearing, just got better and better for the experience, ending the season with us all wowed about him.

I can't see a place here for Catts in the long term.

 

Hmmmm, by the sounds of it, Cattermole has similar problems to a certain Steven Gerrard when he was a youngster. Sliding in for tackles from all angles and getting injured frequently. Could KD be the main to sort out these problems for Cattermole? possibly. Personally, I think £12.5 m is too much for Cattermole, but if KD and Comolli want him and are happy to pay that much, I trust them.

Would be very happy to get Jordan Henderson though. Think he's a great prospect and possible long term replacement for the Gerrard for both Liverpool (should we actually get him) and England.

Quite like Steve Bruce despite being one of SAF's many lapdogs, and Sunderland fans are very passionate, so best of luck to you all at Stadium of Light

 

Cheers

I agree that £12million is a bit rich for Catts, but we don't need to sell, and that's the clause in his contract (which has 3 years remaining).

I've often made the comparison to Gerrard for both injuries and the slight recklesness, but in terms of potential ability, it's like comparing a good set of tits to a tin of dog food!

 

I would like to see Henderson at Liverpool but im not so sure about Cattermole, gets booked and sent off far too frequently for my liking! there were a few rumours of LC joining us before he went to you a few seasons ago.

I haven't heard this rumour though but, with the amount of players we have been linked to it really wouldnt suprise me that this has been printed somewhere.

 

I haven't personally heard this rumour but like the other posters, i'd have Henderson if he was available but I wouldn't be too sure about Cattermole.

Henderson is a very bright, English prospect and our owners want the younger players who can grow and become better players at Liverpool. Andy Carroll is your prime example. Young, English and a very bright prospect.

Anyway, good luck for next season. I've been to see a couple of Sunderland games because my uncle is a massive Sunderland fan and i've always enjoyed it.

 

I can honestley say I would'nt want either of them anywhere near Liverpool. All Cattermole does is foul and imo he's desperate. Henderson look's ok but well overpriced simply because he's English. I could'nt see either of them getting in the team anyway.

 

Henderson definitely.He definitely fits into FSG's blue-print.Cattermole is a little bit too dirty for my liking.However,I reckon that Fathead will try and force a bid from his best buddy Sir Moanalot so that there will be an auction.However,if FSG are as good as their word,they will nail any target that King Kenny and DC identify.However I can see them going with a move for Henderson.
Have any of you heard about the Monaco winger targetted,reports suggest that Kenny and DC have had him watched,and he's 22 and he could be available in a cut price deal and he's a Cameroon International.As we've seen from African attackers ie Kalou and Drogba and Gyan,they can handle themselves and are suited to the prem.

 

These two would be good signings for you guys, you need more cover in the centre of the park, Lucas and Gerrard would be my starting two, but these give good depth. Cattermole isnt particularly dirty, just very very committed and hard in the tackle, like Mascharno but with out the guile, with Gerrard guiding him he could progress well. Henderson would be an ideal replacement of Aquilani. To me these could be lined up as direct replacements for Poulson and Aquilani, with the fees for Aqualini and Poulson you would be likely to only be about £10m out of pocket.

The Monaco lad would be a good signing too, can play on the wing or up front. Add to these another winger, a LB and CB and you would be up there. Budget around £10 m for each of these, your summer outlay would be around £50m (less if you off load Cole, Ayala, Konchesky) with a hugely improved squad

 

How could we be £10 million out of pocket if we sell Aquilani for £16 million(We only paid €12 million),there is the 5% sell on fee which adds up to £800k. and sold Poulsen for £3 million which seems realistic and sold Joe Cole for £3 million,he cost nothing and Ayala for a minimum £1 million,we would be considerably in the black.

 

You talking about Benjamin Moukandjo? I've posted that rumour up on the Rumours and Transfers thread.

Not too sure about him to be fair, the article says he is a striker. You're right in regard to his price though, his team has just been relegated to the French second division so there will be a fire sales to reduce costs.

 

KPR he only included aqua and poulson, not any other buys.

£3m for Poulson seems unlikely, more like £2m

and I really dont think we will get £16m for Aquilani. More like £12-14m

Thats around £15m which is about £10m loss if we bought Henderson and Cattermole for the values mentioned in the OP

 

The report I read in todays mirror suggests that he's a 22 year old winger.Now he's bound to be strong as an ox seeing as he's African.If we could land him on the cheap,would he be that much of a gamble?

 

Ah. I got it from the BBC gossip column and haven't seen the Mirror article. I personally haven't seen much of him but if the price is right and Kenny and Damien rate him, i'll trust their judgement.

 

£16 million for Aquilani is the agreed selling price.Its a buyout clause and has to be met.There is differing views on how much Aquilani was signed for.The deal WAS £20 million.However that was based on success(Well £2.9 million was).He didn't have any and is unlikely to have any.There is also other money for say if he made a certain amount of appearances Roma get x amount.He hasn't therefore Roma get nothing.Roma got €12 million and will get the 5% sell on fee.Which is £800k.That leaves a possible €3 million profit.Poulsen is under contract so I reckon Liverpool will aim to get as much back on him as they possibly can.I can't see them selling for less than £2.5 million.