Just wondering how the possible suspension of Israel might affect Wales' qualification campaign. If they were to be thrown out would we lose the points we gained against them, would fewer teams go through from our group? Anyone know? thanks http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/32812288
What I find hard with this is the same Fifa, fined the racists of Serbia less for constantly racially abusing players less than a player for advertising a product against fifa rules. Then there is Russia who has an appalling record on racism and Homophobia, so what do fifa do, fix the bidding so the country gets the next world cup. They are as an organisation a ****ing disgrace. One rule for one and one for the others, Obviously Israel didn't pay enough in backhanders to Blatter and his cronies. However if the Israeli FA are at fault then some sanctions should be taken.
South African apartheid Vs Israeli partitioning, please explain the difference? Israel will still play Bosnia on 12th June, you can put your mortgage on it
I see where your coming from TLF, but the thing is, Fifa is blamed for a lot by many and on occasion they are openly blamed by ineffective politicians for making a dubious political decision when politics lies way outside of their remit. FIFA is a footballing body, footballs governing body not an international political entity armed with political know how and statesmanship ability needed to navigate the waters of international politics. They are not politicians and in many cases they are just old ex-footballers with no political savvy or any understanding of international diplomacy. Were all fans in the Serbian stadium making racist remarks? were all fans in the Serbian stadium racists? is Serbia a racist country? if so why so? Is racism wrong? Yes it is but these are political questions which should lie in the domain of politicians not a bunch of ex-footballers and low grade administrators. So FIFA can't be expected to deal with such nationalistic issues on its own and it needs political guidance in such matters, who can they turn to themselves for instruction. The only true interested party would be the Nation of the accused and no other politicians would want to step in and grab the nettle from FIFA and say, 'I'll deal with this'. That will never happen so politicians conveniently don't engage limiting their involvement to sniping, but always distancing themselves from the political issue. So does FIFA get guidance from? no one I expect. I believe FIFAs' response to its political impotence is to deliberately stick up two fingers to the world and flick off a few V's, like the bunch of old footballers they are, by purposely imposing insulting fines for such political hot potatoes as racism. The politicians wont help or engage so why should we, is FIFA's view imo and it limps on ineptly, because it can.
No they not but the action taken for the racist and homophobic behaviour at games was an insult to the black players suffering the racism and until they impose proper penalties then these disgusting minorities will continue to abuse minorities. As this was at a football match organised by FIFA it is up to them to deal with this firmly and not in the pathetic way they do, I agree they are not a political organisation, but they need to step forward and be counted these are the people who put themselves forward to run the game so it is down to them, if not capable then let someone who is and someone who will protect the minorities..
Not defending FIFA TLF, just considering the realities which may ensue if any other decision other than a wrist slap was made. Lets say, without any political clout or guidance FIFA decided to make a 'political' decision and imposed a massive fine, or ban on Serbia. It would be seen as an imposition on Serbia not the Serbian FA. The decision would also announce to the world that FIFA was no longer benign administrative body but a powerful, un-elected, unaccountable, political entity with access to a world wide sphere of influence, larger than the political influence of many western countries. It would also announce to the political elite that FIFA was a force capable of making decisions which themselves would make political ripples, waves or tsunamis. No politician of any nation, colour or creed would ever allow an unelected body have such an effect on the political waters they sail upon. On the surface FIFAs arrival on the political scene and their decision would be applauded by the West including UK, France, Germany etc. In the East though a different story would arise with much scathing condemnation coming from Serbia and its considerable number of 'friends' from the old block nations of the USSR, plus any other nation Russia could cajole into the attack. Football, world cups, champions league etc etc would be wielded as weapons and used befitting the side you are told to support. There would be a catastrophic effect on the game and long drawn out political solution would have to be made. Part of the solution would inevitably be an investigation into the 'legality' of FIFA's processes and initial decisions and WHEN proved illegal the constitution of FIFA would be re-written removing any autonomy away from FIFA, who would have to answer to a 'board of advisor' who would sit and ratify every decision FIFA would ever make in the future. Serbia would be apologised to, reinstated and or compensated for being labelled. The battle against Racism would lose big time, returning to a place where Racism, although unacceptable, would be ignored at best, tolerated at worst as people begin to realise that they would not be allowed to speak against it in a national context again. No point complaining, they'll just pay those doing it because I labelled them racist. I absolutely am not defending FIFA, TLF but this is the crap world we live in and that is why I believe FIFA will always do little to nothing about issues that may raise political eyebrows and its also why I believe, to compensate, they are allowed to get away with the alleged corruption issues that seem to follow them everywhere they go. USA 1994 - Super bungs and villa-gate. Holiday villas purchased for FIFA voters pre election by mysterious doners, expensive holidays, watches and cars allegedly found their way to FIFA officials. Investigation suspended due to 'illness' of investigator. Who recovered but the it was all gone and forgotten. Qatar - if left unchecked more than 62 workers will die for each game played there during the 2022 tournament, but it WILL continue, more people WILL die and we WILL al all huddle around our TV's in 2022, forget and cheer on our teams and, of course, Israel WILL play Bosnia and Herzegovina in June
I believe they do nothing to keep getting the con Blatter in a job. Nothing done by FIFA in exchange for votes. The sooner the big footballing nations walk away from FIFA and form an alternative the better football will be. To me they are a disgrace, they promote anti racism yet condone it.
TLF's got it right imo. FIFA could easily draw up new rules (which would make it possible to ban the likes of Serbia and Russia from international competition for the behaviour of their fans) and implement them. They don't. "Why don't they?" is the question.
Surely FIFA are there to protect the players, no matter what colour, race or sexual orientation in the game that they run. Ask yourself the question do they do that and the answer has to be NO. Shame on them.
