I'm guessing Insua is on his way to Sporting Lisbon http://yfrog.com/gy1bvpbvj oh well, robinson is already better Btw he posted the photo on his official twitter
Good luck to him, wish him all the best. No way could he get 1st team football with big Jose, Aurelio and Robbo back there.
Shame really. I for one valued the lad. He's only 22, people seem to forget that. As for Robbo being better? Not a chance, Robbo is just British and getting his chance now (not saying he won't be better, just at the moment). Insua was good whenever he played, especially in his breakthrough season, 09/10. Ran out of the club by Roy Hodgson, replaced with Konchesky. Since he wasn't at the club people started writing about the "deadwood" and his name would sporadically appear, soon everyone was linking him to Cole and Jovanovic and Poulsen, when in reality he's an Argentinian international and a potentially good player. Best of luck at Sporting lad, I'll remember his screamer against the Gunners. Now what does this tell young players around the world about Liverpool? "Don't go there, once you establish yourself you'll be kicked out/not given the chance anymore". It devalues their worth, the way we've treated future world class players (Ayala, Pacheco, San Jose, Nemeth and Insua + more). How can Coates get a place after one tournament and 8 million pounds and Insua gets booted after a very solid season covering for the senior team? Hopefully Robinson and Flanagan along with Kelly and Sterling bring back some lustre to our Academy and youth sides.
Yeah is a shame but he does it 4 the International but can't get in 1st team Anyway wish the lad all the best where ever he ends up playing
I'm quite happy by it. first off the lad was not a good defender as he was constantly out of position. if anything proves that its this preseason! second we should hear we've made a good profi. third we are really clearing out and only the lazy never weres like degen and such asre hanging round like bad smells.
I prefer Robinson so am glad he has moved on. Robinson is now 3rd choice so should get some playing time which will help him develop.
daniloelnino, I see what you are saying but to be honest I don't see how we are sending out a negative message to the youth. This is Liverpool football club where you would expect the best to get into the first team, if youngsters think they can just turn up and expect to get it to the first team because they are capable of pulling a trick or two out of the hat then to me that is sending out the wrong message. Coates can probably get a game because he has played for his national team at the highest level, helping them to win the Copa America along with a load of personal accolades, something Ayala, Pacheco, San Jose etc have not done. The likes of kelly, Flanno and Robbo are lucky enough to get first team football because those areas have worn thin with no other options available, same with Spearing. As a player only you can steal that place in the starting 11, you can't just expect management to give it to you on a plate.
on his international record.... 1. he's only an international cos we made him one. 2. he was only picked a couple of times! on him; 1. he played ok but we bought him, not developed for 12. 500k, we was always a young player bought to play not just a player being developed as a yourh 2. i am not so sure he was tun out of the club, he was allowed to negotiate a move which he did but then his wages were too high. 3. was he good every time he played? no. we was good in places in his first year and yes he was over played by rafa and that hurt him.... but... hang on the guy hadn't a clue where his starting position was and the left side leaked goals when he played as he was awol a lot. finally.... xabi is right, if a young boy from 10 or so does everything right and is good enough they will make it, if a guy 16 or 18 is bought in for good money like a lot of the guys we've mentioned they must be considered differently, expectations AND the clubsrequirement for return is greater..... we bought insua and sold him on.. thats fine by me as the boy got fame, international caps and a career boost while we got a profit, a chance at a good player etc. players like ayala, pacheco, san jose nemeth... not one of them are potential "world class" thats going way way too far. they are young guys attracting interest, they are moving for money and acting like senior plasyers in doing so. the difference is what xabi has said, unlike seniors they should realise they need to work for the spot. pacheco's work rate is painfully obvious.... go read suarez interviews, he says his brother is far better than him... , funny how hes not a pro then eh? the reason suarez is so good is not latent talent, its work rate. to sum up, boys who sign pro contracts with their own teams are developmental, boys who get bought are doing it for money and a chance to jump the queue to fame, no wonder so many don't make it.
If you take into account Aurelio's injury record, Robinson could well be 2nd choice. I think he has shown a lot of promise, more so than Flanagan in my opinion, who has also greatly impressed. Insua though, glad to see him gone, the guy was a huge liability. There was a point a couple seasons ago when teams just started attacking down our left, knowing he was unable to stop them.
It's a shame as he did show good promise and was unfortunate he was made our first choice centre back at the age of 20 when he clearly wasn't ready. It's like throwing Robinson at left back all season, he'll be good for some but inexperience and fatigue will get the better of him at some point. I do think his lack of pace and positioning were his weaknesses though. It does seem a lot of fans have judged Insua on the fact he didn't live up to World Class standards even though he was still learning. Good luck to him, hopefully he'll do well and move on for a bit and we get a ncie chunk with a % of the sell on fee.
Good luck to the lad I did quite like him to be honest and he seemed like a very professional young lad, but once again simply not Liverpool standard.
The negative message for me is that, San Jose, Suso, Pacheco, Ayala, played well in reserves, well in youth squads, regularly, and never got a chance. Those who did, Paletta, Insua, etc were sold and not given the benefit of time, trust and development in senior squads. This becomes a negative thing for prospective young players. Chelsea for example has got no one save Sturridge coming out of the academy, it has an image as a graveyard for youth. They know they won't get chances/time to develop and they start to avoid the club. Liverpool, we're not nearly close to that but we aren't giving foreign talent any chances. It's not going to end well. As a player ages, he becomes more aware of positioning, movement, etc. Was he a reliable, solid, class player? No, he was learning. Yes he made mistakes. So does Flanagan, so do Robinson and Kelly. Of the youth coming through the squad however, Insua for me was certainly the most likely to improve given time, and show those flashes of brilliance from his first 2 seasons. He didn't ask for that plate, Insua, he earned it (or thought he did) and it was taken away from him by Hodgson. After that I think he was more fed up and dejected than anything, leading to people questioning his workrate (which was rather good in 09/10) However I do agree that we did do a lot for the lad, made him the international he is and gave him a name. The profit we made certainly won't be small, the fee last year was around 5,6 million from Fiorentina but ever since that fell through, his price may have fallen to around 4 or 5 million. Hopefully Flanagan and Robbo go on to prove excellent future legends and Spearing develops into a better player. Nothing would please me more than to see KD prove me wrong.
