Ibrahimovic

**** me that's some strike regardless of Hart's cock up

 

That goal was as outrageous as Cisse's against Chelsea.

England were pap though, and it felt, to me, a lot like watching Toon play.

 

Sorry WP, I'm sure you're a nice guy, but I'm not that way inclined.

 

I thought we were pretty good tonight for 75mins. Completely dominated and moved the ball well on a **** pitch. I know its a friendly but making all those changes late on and then that happens, just annoys me. I suppose this the trade off with the club managers.

 

Playing hard to get................

 

It was a mental strike that, quite incredible.

Cisse's against Chelsea was still better though...

 

[video=youtube;6yQ4XiMbRyU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yQ4XiMbRyU[/video]

 

Don't want to look easy.

 

Wonderful strike

Think England will ever produce a player with technical skill as good as that?

 

Sterling looked **** hot for England mind. Caulker was very impressive too. Had to feel for Shawcross getting chucked in at that late stage. Hiding to nothing going in cold with the on fire Ibra. I suppose it highlights what a good prospect Caulker is that he dealt with him fairly well. Can't be many tougher examinations for a young centre back given his power, skill and technique combined.

Osman also did very well. Technical wise, not an English player . Worst game Joe Hart has had for England.

 

Yeah I agree with that. Probably the worst game Hart has had ever, which is quite positive considering he's not been that bad... Goals 3 and 4 he will take blame for, but he may well have been unsighted for the 3rd, and the 4th, well, I feel confident in saying nobody else in the world would have scored what I hesitate to even call an opportunity... It was just ludicrous and brilliant!

Osman looks about 50 now, such a shame he's never had the opportunity to play before now.

 

Ibrahimovic strike was amazing technique but technically it was an open goal - awful goalkeeping from Hart

 

As per the original post, I haven't seen a better goal. There was no fortune with it - yeah, Hart's clearance was poor but what Zlatan did was almost impossible. Not just that he knew exactly what he was doing, but that he hit it backwards, in mid air then somehow managed to twist his body - and he's 6'5" remember - so he could watch it, such is his arrogance.

Frankly incredible and we won't see something like that again. Better than Cisse's by some distance, and THAT was the best goal I'd seen.

 

There's plenty of fortune with it - When you're making an overhead kick from that distance then fortune is about all you have going for you.
Obviously it looks spectacular because it's an overhead kick and it's from a long way out, but in reality it's not that great a goal. It's a combination of two huge pieces of luck, the first that the keeper had gone walkies and left an open goal, the second that the ball went in. All Zlatan could have done in that situation is hit and hope, and in that case it went his way. Most times it wouldn't.

 

I don't understand this at all! Sorry, but that's like saying Neymar's fortunate because defenders go the wrong way, or Cisse was fortunate because it swerved so much! Zlatan has ONE chance to score, ONE chance to hit it exactly right, in the right direction, hard and fast enough to beat retreating defenders and he's got to do it all with his back to goal, in mid-air. He did not "hit and hope" ffs. That's like saying his freekick was "hit and hope" - because ANY shot is "hit (the ball)" and "hope (it goes in/where I want)". If it wasn't like that, there'd be no such thing as a miss.

 

You're right that in all goals luck is needed to some extent, I just think that in this case it was far more luck than actual technique. In situations like that you don't really have the time to decide how you're going to kick the ball, you just kick it and hope. That's slightly different to free kicks and other goals where you have more time to think about what you're going to do.

 

Well, the world's all about opinions - we'll have to agree to disagree! I watched it at least 30 times (rewind, and repeat!) and it's more the fact he KNOWS in that split millisecond that he's done something extraordinary. Thing is, I might lean towards your view if it was, say, Rooney, or Shola, or whoever. But it's this bloke who does, with fair regularity, phenomenal things with a football. It's like his World Cup goal, that screamer - he knew what he wanted to do, had 0.00001532 seconds to think about it but knew, within that microcosm of time, that he'd got it spot on. The guy's incredible for me - one of the World's best characters, at least.

 

Yeah, we'll have to disagree on this one. I just can't see it as a great goal, particularly when the keeper was so far out. I know there were defenders running back but they're very limited in what they can do to keep out goals.

It was still great to watch though, regardless of my feelings about the technique/luck side of things.

 

Can't be the best goal ever for me - no keeper in goal - still amazing but it's an open goal so he basically just had to make sure it was on target (a tough ask in the circumstances, granted!)

 

Marvo

I don't see how anyone can bundle along with the ridiculous view that a set-piece goal, where the ball is stationary and the opposition are at least a set distance away and allowing the strike, can trump a goal where a player has had minimal time to evaluate the situation, sense the opportunity, and hit the ball in such a way as Ibra has done there to score that goal. He's not scored that goal unintentionally, as Papiss essentially admitted after his strike, he's attempted to get the ball over Hart and the two defenders, on the volley in an unorthodox overhead kick fashion while running away from goal. The fact he's planned it, and done executed it without the time you get to plan a free-kick doesn't mean it's not as good, but by your own idiotic logic, it's even better! Put simply, the goal is simply brilliant, whatever fantasy you chose to live in!