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Help With Odds

Discussion in 'Horse Racing' started by TigerMarv, Sep 7, 2015.

  1. TigerMarv

    TigerMarv Well-Known Member

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    I'm no big gambler but do like to donate the odd pound to the bookies and always thought I understood betting odds but after a couple of very small wins I'm a little confused and hoping one of you could point out where im going wrong.

    The other day I had a grand total of £1 (yes a whole £1) on Balty Boys @ 5/1 by my calculation I should have won £5 + got my £1 stake back and my slip (online William Hill) agreed with this but when it won I check my settled bets and it said £1 Stake @ 5/1 return of £4.25

    this happened with another bet but put me up overall so its not the money just for my own sanity.

    Thanks in advance

    Marv
     
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  2. QuarterMoonII

    QuarterMoonII Economist

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    TigerMarv, the reason that you got less back than you expected was because there was a horse withdrawn from the race (the original favourite Ivawood) and this resulted in a Rule 4 deduction from your bet of 35p in the pound. When Balty Boys won, he had inherited favouritism in Ivawood’s absence and only return at 11/4. You effectively got 13/4 after the deduction.

    I have to say that I am disappointed that William Hill’s website did not point out the Rule 4 deduction to you. At this time of the season when there are quite a few horses being declared non-runners because of the changing state of the ground this probably happens to quite a lot of punters.
     
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  3. Ron

    Ron Well-Known Member
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    There were 2 non runners - Ivawood and Let's Go

    This may help. You obviously got the 5/1 very early as it ended up 11/4 fav
     
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  4. TigerMarv

    TigerMarv Well-Known Member

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    That helps thanks,

    I also had Nakeeta @ 12/1 in the 2.35 at Haydock but got back more than expected how does that one work?
     
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  5. QuarterMoonII

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    If you got back more than you expected, there may have been a “Best Odds Guaranteed” offer on the race. If you backed the horse at 12/1 but the starting price was 20/1, you would get paid out at 20/1. If it had started shorter than 12/1, you would still have got 12/1, obviously.
     
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