Loved the stuff I read about Beryl Burton Stan, what an absolute legend she was. Proper Yorkshire lass.
I struggle a bit with the roses thing as it tends to confuse people about Yorkshire and Lancaster. The War of the Roses in a Yorkshire County thing, is a fairly modern construct. The lands of the Duchy of Lancaster were mainly in Gloucestershire, North Wales and Cheshire, and Duchy of York lands were mainly in what we'd call the Welsh borders. I think the house of Lancaster was based in York, and I think Hull fought on that side and opposed the royalist wessies in the Civil War. So from the Scots, Welsh, Danes, Vikings and Civil Wars, we wupped their sorry arses each time, generally against the odds.
These two bits I found about her made me smile. For different reasons. In 1967, she set a new 12-hour time trial record of 277.25 miles â a mark that surpassed the menâs record of the time by 0.73 miles and was not superseded by a man until 1969. While setting the record she caught and passed Mike McNamara who was on his way to setting the men's record at 276.52 miles and winning that year's men's British Best All-Rounder. She is reputed to have given him a liquorice allsort as she passed him. Apparently, McNamara ate the sweet. For Burton, cycling took precedence over everything else, even Denise, says Peake, citing the time mother and daughter were in a race and Burton refused to shake Denise's hand after she won by a whisker. "Afterwards she said something like, 'people say it's because I was jealous, but I wasn't. I don't know what came over me, but I just felt Denise hadn't done her whack.' There's an etiquette in cycling that you hold the group, taking it in turn to set the pace. Beryl had set the pace all the way and then right at the end, Denise zipped past her. Afterwards, Beryl wouldn't let her in the car and made her cycle home!"" Thanks Stan.
We used to refer to it as 'bogging', Charlie (hanging back, on the back wheel of the rider in front) = slip-streaming. Glad you appreciated it. I'd love to see the show.
I'm sorry to say that you are all seriously deluded in your assumptions to being Yorkshire lads and lasses. For a start we are our own county, The City And County Of Kingston Upon Hull, and if you have lived in the 'heart' of Yorkshire, the West Riding, I have, (i.e. Leeds area) then you will know that 'they' do not, and have never have regarded this area bordering the North Sea a part of Yorkshire. I was at an early age when my accent and the knowledge that I came from 'Ull meant I was an outcast as far as they were concerned and was not included in that 'club' called Yorkshire. And I was reminded of the fact when Yorkshire Cricket Club stopped any Yorkshire matches being played at The Circle back in the 1960's or thereabouts. Still time moves on and the ill fated Humberside is no more and Hull is actually the pride of area (pity about the egg chasing teams) but please stop the chest beating tub thumping stuff, I keep reading on these forums 'We are Ull' lets keep it that way. East Yorkshire is ceremonial only. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingston_upon_Hull
Hull is in deed in the County of Kingston, but it's you and your dumb wessie friends that are deluded if you believe that means we're not in Yorkshire. It's pure envy tinged with ignorance for them to claim otherwise. Leeds and the West Riding are far from the heart of Yorkshire (the clue's in the name). They're nearly Lancashire, hence their silly accent. It's also not their choice to decide if WE are in the Shire of York. They speak a version of Lancastrian, Sheffield is in Nottinghamshire and Derbyshire. It's more OUR decision to let them tell folk they share a part of OUR County.
I want as much to do with York as I do Leeds DMD zero, Hull and the surrounding area is all I care about, being part of Yorkshire is dragging us down and why we are never considered by central government for economic expansion, the motorway stops at Gilberdyke, the promised rail electrification goes as far as Selby, we need to fight our corner not part of a bigger entity called 'Yorkshire' think York or Leeds or Doncaster or Sheffield or Huddersfield care about us? No chance.
It's not really a question of any of that, most is just your wish list, which you're welcome to. What you can't have are your own facts, and they say that the City and County of Kingston upon the River Hull is, and has been since its creation, in the East Riding of Yorkshire. Where we really got held back, and are still paying for economically and in other ways, is when the plonked us with the south bank. Don't forget, most of the industrial west riding/Lancashire, owes its existence to us and our trade links. They're very much in our region,not vice versa.
It is. We also gain from being able to dip into the pot of regional funding that goes to Yorkshire due to its combined lobbying power, as well as being able to bid for funds in our own right. It does mean we have to prove our case ranks higher than others in the region, but you've got to be in it, to win it, as they say.
