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Gary Hooper Anyone?

Discussion in 'Bristol City' started by wizered, Sep 22, 2019.

  1. johngalleyfan2

    johngalleyfan2 Well-Known Member

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    absolutely not, your statement a reply to supcon is the line of thought …
    when Tammy came to us he had played just 2 or 3 subs appearances for Chelsea prem lge. he came to us with half a dozen Under? match's and scored over 20 goals in his first competitive season aged 19? -20?
    So you do not know what you have got till you try it ...had he gone the whole season and scored 10 goals or more everyone would have been happy .. we didn't have him as a nailed on CF goal scorer.. we had him to add to our "strike force" to develop him for Chelsea …………… and we did whats he worth now ? 25-40 million?
     
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  2. AshtonRed

    AshtonRed Well-Known Member

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    We had Kodja too, we only sold Kodja when it was apparent Tammy was going to fill his shoes .
     
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  3. johngalleyfan2

    johngalleyfan2 Well-Known Member

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    Kodija was already a proven goal scorer at a competitive level … we bought him from France, and KODIJA was playing up and wanted to leave so needed to have a stop gap! and boy what a stop gap!
     
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  4. AshtonRed

    AshtonRed Well-Known Member

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    Recent years we’ve become adept at buying players with potential, improving them and selling them at a decent profit, apart from possibly Kodja striker is one position we seem to be making bad choices , either buying players who never even make the first team or deciding not to buy ones that other clubs then improve and go beyond our means. It’s one position we do need to improve on.
     
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  5. Redprintt

    Redprintt Well-Known Member

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    'buying players with potential, improving them and selling them at a decent profit'

    AR - I can only think of Webster who we've bought and made a profit.
    All the others Kodjia, Bryan, Reid, Flint, Kelly etc were here before LJ.
    Please tell me if I've forgotten anyone.

    As for Strikers I'm trying to think who we've bought who we've made a profit on.
    Andy Cole, not sure of Super Bob and Wilbraham gave us excellent service on a free.

    The strikers where we made a bad choice :
    Engvall springs to mind and Djuric didn't cut the mustard either.
    My memory gets worse, was there ever a worse striker we've bought than the £2million Engvall.
    There must be others in the past, it's just the size of the transfer fee of £2million that sticks in my mind.
     
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  6. Angelicnumber16

    Angelicnumber16 Well-Known Member

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    Didn't Andy Cole cost us £500,000 from Arsenal, and we then sold him to Newcastle for £1.8m ?
    Not sure how much Sir Bob went (to WBA?) for or what we paid for him originally.
     
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  7. wizered

    wizered Ol' Mucker Staff Member

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    Lid lifted on Bristol City’s attempt to land proven performer

    Bristol City have been showing some “tentative” interest in free-agent striker Gary Hooper but the deal has now fallen through, according to Bristol Live reporter Gregor MacGregor.

    Hooper has been without a club since his release from Sheffield Wednesday over the summer, and it now appears Robins boss Lee Johnson has recently been showing an interest in the experienced frontman.

    The Robins are unbeaten since the opening day of the season and currently sit eighth in the Championship table having collected 16 points from their opening nine league matches, but they recently were dealt a heavy blow when striker Benik Afobe was ruled out for the rest of the season.

    Afobe managed to score three goals in his first five games for the Robins prior to his injury after joining from Stoke over the summer, and this now means Johnson is once again short of options in the attacking department.

    He could turn to the likes of Antoine Semenyo and Famara Diedhiou to replace Afobe in the side, but it has now emerged the club have recently been monitoring Hooper’s contract situation amid their striker concerns.

    MacGregor has revealed the Robins have been tracking the 31-year-old, but it now appears unlikely he will join the Ashton Gate outfit after the deal fell through.

    “We heard this week that there had been some tentative interest in Gary Hooper but the latest, we’ve been told, was that it had fallen through,” MacGregor said in a Bristol Live Q&A.

    Hooper spent four seasons at Sheffield Wednesday prior to his release, where he scored a total of 31 times in 89 appearances for the Owls.

    The Verdict

    It is surprising that Hooper has not yet been picked up by a club given his solid goalscoring record for the Owls, and it would have been interesting to see how he would have fared if this move to Bristol City had materialised.

    Hooper may not have started every game for the Ashton Gate outfit but he would have provided an excellent option from the bench, as he is someone who can always be counted on to find the target.

    The Robins will need to add some attacking firepower to their ranks following Afobe’s injury, but perhaps Johnson is willing to put his trust in Semenyo and Diedhiou until the January transfer window.

    Diedhiou managed to bag 13 goals for the Robins last term so he could help alleviate Bristol City’s striker troubles if he can re-discover this goalscoring touch in the near future, but Hooper would have still been a welcome addition to the side.
    https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/lid-lifted-on-bristol-citys-attempt-to-land-proven-performer/
     
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  8. Redprintt

    Redprintt Well-Known Member

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    Angelic - I agree.
    Andy Cole is about the only one I can remember we made a profit on.

    I was just questioning Ashton's view of City making profits from players the latest regime have brought to AG.
     
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  9. AshtonRed

    AshtonRed Well-Known Member

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    My point was as a club , I couldn’t care a jot which manager bought or sold them, if we are talking managers you could argue LJ has even increased the value of players he inherited, which could be seen as even more impressive.... just saying. Of course I wouldn’t be so childish as to raise such a point.
     
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  10. AshtonRed

    AshtonRed Well-Known Member

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    Of course they would be tracking him , as they no doubt are several others, I’d be disappointed if they weren’t, I have to say he doesn’t feel me with excitement, but as others have pointed out neither did Wilbraham so what do i know.
     
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  11. Red Robin

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    One thing for sure we need a bloody goal scorer Afobe a massive loss.
     
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  12. Redprintt

    Redprintt Well-Known Member

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    No, your point was we've become adept at buying and improving players selling them for a profit.

    So far I could only think of Webster and that is my point.
     
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  13. AshtonRed

    AshtonRed Well-Known Member

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    Kodja ?
     
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    Redprintt Well-Known Member

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    Yep, I also mentioned Andy Cole but wasn't sure of Super Bob.
     
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  15. AshtonRed

    AshtonRed Well-Known Member

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    I appreciate we didn’t actually buy them, so I accept the wording I used wasn’t accurate in that sense, but my point was more we are improving players through identifying and coaching young players and selling them, Bryan, Kelly, Reid, along with the others mentioned, When you add up the combined fees it’s an impressive amount. It also encourages others who previously would not consider us now are .
    I’ve been watching City for many years and we’ve never been able to attract the quality of young players we now can. It’s an exciting time, imo.
     
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  16. AshtonRed

    AshtonRed Well-Known Member

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    I’m not sure we sold Bob at a profit , it’s a long time ago and my memory isn’t what it used to be, I don’t remember his sale being motivated by getting a profit , Andy Cole was , but he was a one off rather than a reflection of a policy.
     
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  17. Redprintt

    Redprintt Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for clarifying.
     
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  18. AshtonRed

    AshtonRed Well-Known Member

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    I think I know what my point was , I may have not worded it well, others can judge, but I was speaking about the club taking young talented players , improving them and selling for a profit. You may disagree with me , but that was my point.

    I never once mentioned any particular manager so I’m unsure why you thought I was implying LJ bought, sold and made a profit, unless you have an agenda so see things that weren’t there.
     
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  19. AshtonRed

    AshtonRed Well-Known Member

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    Read my original post again, I just have, at no point did I mention any regime , just a general point about improving players and selling for a profit, so I’m not sure why you came to the conclusion that a was singling out the latest regime, but it is true that it’s under its stewardship that these profits have been made.

    I’m a great fan of Cotts by the way, the pre season before we got promotion recruitment in my view was incredible, I’m also of the opinion that had we recruited who he wanted when we were promoted to the championship and stuck with him we may now already be in the PL, that’s speculation, we’ll never know.
     
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  20. Supcon72

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    Marlon Pack and Aden Flint spring to mind as well
     
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