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Fernando Torres

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by LucasPrime, Nov 21, 2012.

  1. Kop79

    Kop79 Active Member

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    Would not want him back even on a free
     
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  2. luvgonzo

    luvgonzo Pisshead

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    I'm the opposite to you, I think he relied heavily on his pace to give him time and I don't see a great footballer now that he has lost that pace. There seems to be a bit of a split of people who want him back and those who don't, I'm going to have to stick with my opinion that even if I put the way I feel to one side then he's still not a good enough player anymore so we shouldn't buy him at any price.
     
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  3. good kop red kop

    good kop red kop Active Member

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    I tend to agree... if we just calmed down a little (and he was on offer for £10m.) GKRK
     
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  4. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Would he fit rodger's philosophy?

    no 9 playing a 4-3-3... squarez psuehd to right side, sterling on left.

    at ten mil which is a ridiculous fee of course it'd be idela. much mroe ideal than sturridge at 15mil but lets get real.. the fee would be 30mil minimum and we aint paying it so its moot.

    we need the next torres at 24 not the guy who's yesterdays man.. we needed aguero at 35mil (bargain) we needed mata at 20mil bargain.. we got carroll and keane at the time...
     
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  5. Jimmy Squarefoot

    Jimmy Squarefoot Well-Known Member

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    Plus the team is now built around Suarez - he is our main man.
     
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  6. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    indeed...

    rodgers wants suarez as a false nine so he needs guys to come in from wide to get in the box and that is not torres is it?

    we also need a reserve no 9 though i suppose ;)
     
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  7. BringBackfootie

    BringBackfootie New Member

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    I think agent Rafa will talk him into coming back.. after he fixes him at Chelsea's expense. Rafa and Torres coming back with Mata in tow at the end of the season <laugh>
     
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  8. ShanksHateTheMancs

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    Stop it you are almost making me hope we have a poor season, well almost:biggrin:
     
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  9. Lee263

    Lee263 Well-Known Member

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    Torres needs to move to a "lesser" club in order to reignite is career, he will never cut it at Chelsea with that price tag around his neck. I wouldn't mind giving him a goal at West Ham though, im sure Nolan would see him alright for a few goals.
     
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  10. ShanksHateTheMancs

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    Will be interesting to see what Rafa can do with him! Sadly it looks like his body is shot; but..... if it is confidence then Rafa is the best bet to get him going again. Lets not forget he did start the season ok, then went back to looking **** again. The only thing I would say that is not going to help is that Chelsea have no forward options other than Sturridge so the pressure on Torres and his body is not going to help matters at all.
     
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  11. Aidan-lfc

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    He's done. It shouldn't be a confidence issue. He has 3 of the best creative midfielders in the Prem in Hazard, Oscar and Mata behind and he still can't score goals. He has lost his pace, and that was a big part of his game. I wouldn't have him back, if he cant score at Chelsea with those 3 then how is he going to score at Liverpool?
     
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  12. DirtyFrank

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  13. Hope this works (im also on phone)...

    Kennny Daglish columnMan in the mirror: Why Fernando Torres needs to take a long, hard look at himselfBy*Kenny Dalglish*
    *|**24 Nov 2012 07:30

    So much of the decision-making process surrounding the Chelsea manager's job seems to have centred on the enigma that is Fernando Torres.

    There is an argument to suggest that Roberto Di Matteo's unfortunate departure was massively influenced by the form of the striker...and if I were Nando, then I think that means it's time to take a long hard look at himself in the mirror.

    Let's not hide from the fact, he is not the player right now he was in 2010. The Chelsea version of Fernando Torres is not the same striker who played at Liverpool.
    Why? Well it has always seemed to be somebody else's fault. Fernando doesn't look as if he's even enjoying what he's doing any more, and I think he's got to look hard at himself for the reasons why.

    From what I've seen, people have tried to help him, he's had the support and he's had the backing. Everybody else seems to be trying to help him, but in football there comes a time when you have to help yourself.

    It can't always be somebody else's fault. Torres had an amazing talent at Liverpool and I believe he's a much better player than he has shown at Chelsea. If it's still there, then ultimately he's the only one who can find it.

    Yes, there are other factors in his amazing form at Anfield. I've no doubt Rafa Benitez played a huge part in the success he had at Liverpool, and so did a guy called Steven Gerrard, who offered the incredible supply Torres could thrive on.

    Even though Fernando had already made the decision to leave by the time I arrived back as manager of Liverpool, I knew him well, after meeting him several times. I had a dinner with him that was filmed by Spanish TV, with Michael Robinson, Graeme Souness, wee Sammy Lee and I think Jockey Hansen.

    He was such a nice kid, so respectful and humble towards the history and tradition of Liverpool, and even when he left he showed the same respect, so I don't know what happened with him at Chelsea where he seems so out of love with the game.

    I think it could be mental with him. It doesn't matter how talented you are, when your confidence is shot you're not the same player.

    The good news for him, is Rafa is the perfect manager to squeeze the best out of him. He's the man who had the faith to bring him to the Premier League, and for me he is a great appointment for Chelsea - the best qualified of anyone available.]
    I feel for Roberto Di Matteo because he achieved something incredible in winning the Champions' League and FA Cup, but maybe it was time for him to go, and if so, then the arrival of Benitez has to be the moment of truth for Fernando Torres.
     
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  14. The IncREDibles

    The IncREDibles Well-Known Member

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    I think that under the right conditions he can be world class again, but I wouldn't have him back at Liverpool under our current regime, because the fact is that our style of play, like the style of play that RDM was trying to implement at Chelsea, doesn't play to Torres' strength.

    Torres was at his best when he played in a team whose midfield was set up to play long diagonal balls down the channels. The intricate passing that has made Mata, Hazard and Oscar such a formidable trio doesn't suit Torres as much. That's also why he wasn't as prolific in Spain as he was at Anfield
     
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  15. DirtyFrank

    DirtyFrank Well-Known Member

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    And this is why I don't care. For all his talk; these players know when something is to their advantage & Chelsea were never ever Torres thing.

    So it was for Money (fair play we'd all do it) but I'll take no excuse &ill give no hugs.....
     
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