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  1. astro

    astro Well-Known Member

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    The Football Association's Four Point Plan

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27327502

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  2. Bindiana

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    Surely the Non EU thing could turn into a legal battle. In Rafa's day he was trying to promote the B teams in the league. So can the B teams get promoted to the Championship or do they stay in league 3?
     
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  3. jenners04

    jenners04 I must not post porn!

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    did he ever buy english talent or try and promote it when he was club manager? seems a bit hypocritical to moan about it now when he contributed to it if he did.

    if they really want clubs to try and promote english talent, tell selling clubs to stop taking the piss with the english hype value put on players, not going to happen though is it lol, how some clubs survive.

    also you get foreign talent cheaper, if english talent was cheaper then, could argue for it more why are clubs not doing enough.
     
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  4. Milk not bear jizz

    Milk not bear jizz Grasser-In-Chief

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    I don't see really how this is much different than having the reserve league. And are Chelsea allowed to field four or five teams in this league with all their extra players- that could really throw things off-kilter!

    Is a league below league 2 really good enough for the reserve teams? Surely they would really sit somewhere between 1 and 2?

    In league 2- you'll have the B teams constantly destroying everyone- and teams in 15th place getting promoted to league 1...

    UNLESS they allow promotion higher... but I don't think they should let B teams promoted as high as Championship. League 1 at a max.




    If they add this new division between Conference and league - might be time for Celtic and Rangers to try again getting into English leagues... if they start off in this new league- in 4 or 5 years they could make it up to the Championship- maybe one day get into Premier League... and really- at the start of a new division is the only time it would be fair to let them join in the league structure.
     
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  5. Milk not bear jizz

    Milk not bear jizz Grasser-In-Chief

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    Weren't Flanagan, Raheem Sterling, and Kelly all part of the youth program when Rafa was in charge? Rafa was all about buying promising youth players (whether English or foreign) - he cleared all the older reserves out- and transformed our reserve team from a reject bin to a youth-oriented development team.

    Houllier had completely neglected our youth and Rafa worked at bringing it back.
     
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  6. Germlands Nozzer

    Germlands Nozzer Well-Known Member

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    Not sure. A restriction on players from within the EU would almost certainly contravene EU laws, but for non-EU countries I don't think there's any problems. I'm not an expert though.
     
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  7. Tobes

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    It shouldn't do, as they'll just remove Championship and below football as an occupation that an non EU national can apply for a work permit for.
     
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  8. johnnywarksmoustache

    johnnywarksmoustache Well-Known Member

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    This is a terrible idea and wioll over time force many existing football clubs out of business! What chance would lower league clubs have of competing with these Premier League B teams! It would be an utter disgrace if this were allowed to happen the FA should hang its head in shame for destroying over a 100 years of football in this country. Football is about much more than money, its about hope and aspiration in the belief that one day your club will be promoted and be successful. The introduction of these B teams will seriously undermine all this and will be yet another example of the hubris that exists in the governance of the game. The whole integrity of our national game will be put at risk! Hands off the football league pyramid it isn't broken so dont try and fix it!
     
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  9. Who you talking about? If you meant Woy, I give you Joe Cole and Paul Konchesky <ok>

    If you meant Rafa; Pennant, Crouch, Carson, Hobbs, Anderson, Martin, Fowler, Johnson, Sterling and Shelvey.
     
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  10. jenners04

    jenners04 I must not post porn!

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    i was talking about woy, and the names you gave hardly an endorsement is it <laugh>

    must surely have brought the worst 2 examples of English talent possible lol
     
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  11. Milk not bear jizz

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    I'm English and I'm not as good as Konchesky if I'm honest... I have a little more hair than him though- and my name sounds Englisher.
     
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  12. I didn't say they were good <whistle> TBF to Woy, you could only count Meireles in the good category so its not a nationality thing <laugh>
     
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  13. Cummings vs Konchesky :huh:
     
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  14. Milk not bear jizz

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    Konchesky sounds like some Polish, or Slavic name. He didn't deserve to be so crap with a foreign sounding name. Foreign sounding players are supposed to be better.
     
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  15. He would have been better if his name was Koncheskinho
     
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  16. Flappy Flanagan (JK)

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    Will Greg Dyke vote UKIP?



    Personally I think that encouraging more British players to play abroad would benefit the national team more.
     
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  17. InBiscanWeTrust

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    So non-EU players being banned from non top flight?

    So you're a Prem team, with a few non-EU players, then you get relegated and you have to sell them because you're not allowed to play them? Yeah.... can really see that one working <doh>
     
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  18. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    in short a b team structure is patently required, its so f'n obvious but REALISTICALLY only 10 maybe 12 teams can afford to do it. the level of below league 2 is patently a sop to league clubs as this is a league 1 type level from 19-22 or so....

    the increasing HG requirement is patently impossible as it will only take one law suit

    however the fact that a b team came out of this amazes me. i am shocked such a proposal was not killed by interested parties
     
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  19. RogerisontheHunt

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    To be fair to Houllier he did have his hands full with changing the 1st team.

    B teams wouldn't work in England, the league and club system are too well established. Top clubs would love to promote from within, it saves them money and makes them look good at the same time.
    The problem is that English/British players are over hyped and then over priced the moment they show any promise. That Man U player who scored twice on Tues (Evans?) will have doubled his price tag over that 90mins. Sterling how much would he have cost three years ago, 10mill and how much now? The Hughes lad that plays for Derby is he worth the 10-12mill they are asking for?

    The pressure on the big clubs to buy British has now meant that British players are way over priced.

    B teams will mean nothing for British player development, it'll just mean the big clubs wont have to loan players out anymore and they'll just buy young foreign players and horde them from an early age, like they are now, just with another stage before they make it to the first team.
     
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  20. Tobes

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    You'd have to bear that in mind when you bought them.....which might be part of the point.....
     
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