This is purely the result of a court case that started while Hollande was still President. There were immigrants that returned to the area after the jungle was closed, and there was a stand off between the Mayor of Calais and the Regional Prefect. Since the case started most were rounded up and put in accommodation, but a few have seen the deportations and returned to the area. We are now looking at a smallish number, who will be rounded up as before, assessed and deported if it is valid. This has been reported in several French language newspapers, and you need to know about how the legal system works here to get a full picture. It is little wonder that Macron wishes to get rid of the problem and has said that if the UK wishes to control it's borders it can do it in Dover.
I'm glad you now accept your lack of correct information and the accurate and up to date reports regarding the hundreds of migrants currently around Calais. The French government have lost their appeal against a court order to provide basic amenities. The government was described as dealing a serious and clearly illegal blow to a 'basic right' and causing physical and psychological damage. You need to widen your reading material so you are kept up to date.
Mark Carney today predicted the UK financial sector will thrive after Brexit. More biased news from that well known right wing rag The Guardian Don't relax rules on City after Brexit, Bank of England governor warns
Please go back and read the article again. Notice the date of the original ruling? That says quite clearly that it was a situation before the immigrants were rounded up. The 26th June is not current news. You have once again shown that you have jumped onto something without knowing enough to make a reasoned judgement.
I doubt I will see it as he is talking about 25 years time. So he is warning against the low regulation UK that some of the loonies wish to see. Listening to him today he was talking about an economy that will be sluggish, and needs a long transition period if it is not to crash.
The 26th June was the start of the court action which was decided on 31st July against the French government. They have now agreed to comply and set up the requested camps away from Calais. Until they are completed the hundreds of migrants remain at Calais. try this one Teargas or Pepper Spray, Abuse is Abuse Your desperation to hide any information that shows France in a bad light is frankly weird.
More confusion tonight, this time over fishing. Michael Gove chose to put stopping EU fishing in British waters front and centre of his campaign to leave the EU. Now he is off around Europe telling people that they will be able to fish in those areas. Reality seems to take time to kick in for some.
Incorrect, he is saying it will thrive and double in 25 years time. He has also insisted the city has an important future role, despite Brexit, warning that European economies need to retain access to the city of London because THE UK IS THE INVESTMENT BANKER FOR EUROPE.
France to open two new centres for Calais migrants Announced on 1st August, camps to be opened in ten days.
Total rubbish. I have tried to point out that the ruling was given on the 26th June. It could not have been the start of the case as there had been several weeks of evidence already given. It says that clearly and was reported over here An appeal was lodged later, and the result given, but by the time it came through the situation was totally different. Just stop trying to divert the attention from the problems that exist in the UK.
Wrong again, the French government's appeal against the ruling was dismissed on the 31st July. You are the only one that has housed the migrants before the new camps are even built. they will be ready by 10th August. duh!
Please read the report below so you can understand a little better. France to open two new centres for Calais migrants
I had already read that a couple of days ago. A few hundred have returned, but the 7,000 -10,000 in the original jungle have been housed or deported. There was a decision taken to move the current ones away from Calais, and once again they intend to use empty accommodation. You show that you know little about French local government, or the French legal system, so there is little point in continuing this as it is nothing to do with Brexit, unless you take the threat to disband the Calais port as the UK border. We all know that the present UK government has been dragged before the courts costing millions of pounds and they had the chance to appeal, even if they lost. This all about legal process.
Everybody knows the majority of the original migrants were relocated around the country. The up to date reports, which you belatedly now accept as fact, all state there are 400 - 700 migrants remaining around Calais. Understandably the local mayor refused to service these migrants with basic amenities fearing it would attract more. local charities took the officials to court and the court ruled the local authorities should provide the migrants with assistance. The government appealed against this decision but lost. Your desperation in hiding any negatives in France seems to have a commonality with most expats, although you seem to take it to extremes. It takes me back to when I lived in the Tarn, any criticism of French life was taboo, however well meaning. It is if highlighting any imperfections in French life challenges the merits of the decision to re-locate away from the UK. A little less embellishment of the facts from you would be helpful.
You just want to come on here and bicker SH .... haven't you got anything better to do? This relentless slagging off of any thing French is becoming so predictable. You are also so stereotypical in your postings as your one here shows. There are lots of things good and bad about everywhere and all people. Similarly your postings on Brexit ...in which any criticism of it is, for you, taboo.
Not so. I like to debate sensibly with honesty. There are many great things about France, which is why I lived there and continue to visit. There is however, like all countries, room for improvement. To address problems they first need to be identified then discussed without fear or favour. There are many challenges ahead caused by Brexit, the current unnecessary actions by EU border officials is clearly a timely reminder how difficult they can make things. Nobody likes rejection, including the EU club but they will just have to get used to it. Nice you managed a message to me without your normal insults.
I do not think that Frenchie is trying to gloss over anything which is happening in France but rather to defend against your attempts to divert attention from what is happening in Britain - which is the main theme of this thread. With regard to your comment about ex pats in general - I could write a whole book criticizing Germany but I do not think it would interest anyone on here, so I avoid it. You appear to focus on one or two aspects of French society and take this as proof that the whole system does not work - just as if I were to site the 100,000 homeless in New York as an example which proves that the USA. does not work. The constant references to France are exclusive ie. only of interest to those on here who either have some connection to the place or know something about it - they are no more generally relevant than if I were to write every second text about Bulgaria. Having said this - I have nothing against France and could also imagine living there -( but it would go tits up because I can't speak French whereas I speak fluent German ).
With all the waffle going on about immigration/Brexit, it might be timely to remember Michael Rosen's wise words from last year... “Concerns about immigration”? Where does that come from? The media keep saying: “People are expressing concerns about immigration People are expressing concerns about immigration People are expressing concerns about immigration” If you are registered as non-dom you can run a business in the UK but pay no tax. This costs us billions. “People are expressing concerns about immigration.” If the government cuts public services, they increase pressure on public services. “People are expressing concerns about immigration.” Since 1980, wealth has shifted from labour to capital. In other words those that ‘have’, have more; those that have the least, have less. Those that have the least have given wealth to those that have more. “People are expressing concerns about immigration” The government regularly announces that it freezes the wages of public service workers. This means that people can afford less. Their living standards decline. “People are expressing concerns about immigration” The government has repeatedly brought in policies which have helped to increase the price of houses. The proportion of people’s income required to rent or buy has steadily risen. Flats and houses cost more to live in. There is less space per pound of people’s income. “People are expressing concerns about immigration” Some people do not know that the main reasons for their standard of living to go down are nothing to do with immigration. Instead, they keep hearing: “People are expressing concerns about immigration.” You know what happens next? some people express some concern about immigration. After all, people can only think what they think based on available information. The media supply the available information. They keep saying: ‘People are expressing concerns about immigration.” The government laughs quietly to itself: “People do not blame us for their living standards going down, they blame immigration.”
We have had a fair bit of knocking the UK and bragging about France on this forum. I think it is perfectly within order to remind those participants of the multitude of problems France currently needs to face. France being our nearest EU neighbour, apart from Ireland, holds special interest and experience for many. It is fascinating how France, as one of the most eurosceptic members in the EU, faces up to the challenge of the urgent reforms needed. The Macron boy has also indicated his intention to make life difficult for the UK's Brexit negotiating team, you must surely understand the interest in France from this side of the channel?
