Here's the answer to our defense problem ..... All our Forwards should play in defense with the defenders ..... 1 6 3 formation ...... then when we win the ball back ..... pass it about between the midfield defenders & goalie while the forwrds dash upfield to wait for the hoof Ball ........ then when we lose the ball all they have to do is dash back before their players get there ........ Voila !!! Defense sorted !!!!!! Hehehehehehe ........................ can you elaborate on this to tweak the formula a bit ??? lol