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  1. Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed

    Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed Well-Known Member

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    i agree with it - if you want to drink, you do it
    i.e at the moment, if people want to have had drink at the game, be it 1 pint or 10, you have to either drink before the game or under the stand before kick off, or queue for ages at half time and neck it down. why not release this pressure a bit?

    like you say, its good for ruggers and cricket too
     
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  3. Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed

    Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed Well-Known Member

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    never been to the egg-chasing but certainly at the cricket it all works well enough.
     
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    yarco canary Well-Known Member

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    I go to cricket a lot,never any trouble because 99% are supporting the same team.

    Football hooliganism is creeping back,I see it most game as I walk round after the match.

    Alcohol fuels most violence,and if you can't do without a drink for 90 mins whist game is being played
    I think you need help.

    By the way I do smoke and enjoy a good pint (beer in Carrow Rd is expensive and ****e)
    so I have mine either before or after the game
     
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    thing is yarco if people want to get smashed and get in a fight, they'll get smashed before the game. for me it doesn't tackle the problem.
    stewards can always chuck out trouble makers or drunk people.
    maybe there is a way of restricting it to one drink per match, i don't know. trial it at least.

    yep, supers, i've been to twickenham and the millenium stadium and had a beer watching the rugby before. No issue.
     
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    King_of_Portman_Rd Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Whenever I've been to the cricket I've been blind drunk before the lunch break and thoroughly loved the 'day' football however is slightly different there is the much higher levels of intensity than cricket but I have to agree that the current procedure for anyone looking to get 'bevv'd up' is to get smashed before the match and in reality why can't we offer the opportunity to drink during the match. It will potentially alleviate any pre match troubles outside the ground as the crowds of lairy lads are in the mood for getting tanked up.

    That said I can't see the FA looking at it in this way, the fact that it will give the everyday supporter another item in their hand to launch toward the pitch will be their argument however plastic, lightweight and flimsy the cups are..
     
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    Stewarding at Carrow Rd is woeful.

    I have seen guys drinking where I sit in Main Stand(mostly Cup games- not regulars)

    I agree you will never legislate for the knob heads who want to get rat arsed,but
    the least the average fan can expect is not to have to endure it whilst the match
    is on.

    You cannot compare a cricket crowd with a football crowd.Poles apart
     
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    canary_max Well-Known Member

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    agreed but 90% of supporters at CR i'm sure are not idiots and would like this. it's all about making sure the 10% don't ruin it like you say.
    i'm not sure letting them drink during the game will make much difference, but that's my opinion, i don't go to many games so haven't had to witness it like you have.
     
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  9. Fatter than Fleck

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    Drinking at Headingley watching one day cricket whilst at University made a complete t*t of myself. Carrying a try of 8 pints (not all for me) I was talking with a friend in the crowd as I walked past him, did not see the waste bin in front of me and went a*se over tip. As it was between overs I was being tracked by a cameraman. Although they did not have big screen replays in thosae days it did make the highlights package that night, prompting much sarcasm the follwing day from my dad on the level of commitment I was showing to my studies.

    To return to the thread Have drunk at any number of sporting venues (including taking in oranges injected with vodka to "dry" grounds) without any crowd violence. Seated stadia makes it easy to apprehend ant looking to cause trouble. Agree with yarco that beer at Carrow Road is not worth drinking so probably would not take advantage myself.
     
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    I honestly think they must be mad to do bring it back now. In the last year there spotlight has been on fans, and there have many so many incidents in last year, more than i can ever remember. I honestly think it would be absolutely ridiculous to bring it back at this point, why do it when football fans are already hugely in the spotlight? Racism, violence etc. seems to be a common theme recently.

    Maybe in a couple of years if the behavior of football fans improves, like it was before.
     
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    It does amuse me when as soon as we look at increasing the opportunity for adults to drink at football matches, the same old arguements about hooliganism are trotted out like a knee jerk reaction! Alcohol is already available inside the ground so why stop people from consuming it during the game? How many more pints do you think people will consume as a result of this small change? It is a bit idiotic to suggest that because people will be allowed more time for drinking, it will automatically result in more violence! I think that we should begin to trust people rather than just stop people from doing things all the time. We are far removed from the dark days of the 1970s & 80s and in general society has moved on and is far more enlightened now. Well done to Cleggy for raising this issue and I think that it is perfectly reasonable to allow drinking when watching the game.
     
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  12. Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed

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    well said warky <ok>

    the same issue applies to the standing debate too.
     
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    Here is my suggestion.

    Put all the drinkers and standers together,and see the result,oh don't forget the smokers.
     
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    Why? Does a pint taste better standing up then!
     
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    Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed Well-Known Member

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    well i personally wouldn't allow the drinking if standing areas were re-introduced. if we remain all-seater then i see no reason why people can't be allowed to drink in their seat. smoking affects peoples health who DON'T want to smoke. that's different and is, in my opinion, rightly banned.
     
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    You really do see the world through rose tinted glasses Supers
     
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    Well I think more will be drunk if it was allowed with you when you sit, the queues will not be so big at half time, it wouldn't get so crowded around that area. I don't really disagree with being able to do it, but at the moment with a fair few incidents in the past 12 months it wouldn't work. Something else will happen and that'll be the excuse for the behaviour, "this happened because they were allowed to drink in the stands, they shouldn't be able to drink in the stands, let's ban it again". It will not have any longevity because as soon as something happens it will probably get banned again. That's what I meant by my post.
     
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    I can't see this going down too well, but how about you have to have a season ticket to be able to buy a pint? Then, make everyone clear that the club has a zero tolerance policy to alcohol-fuelled violence, and that any caught by the police involved in any fracas will lose their season ticket and receive a lifetime ban from Carrow Road? At least that way there is a very real deterrent for people, and we'd quickly whittle out the offenders. People who don't have season tickets would have less to lose from a ban, so the deterrent is less. Or is that very unfair?
     
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    Superman wears Grant Holt pyjamas in bed Well-Known Member

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    care to elaborate? either you've used the wrong phrase or i'm going mad.

    i should also just say that i don't think drinking will be allowed in football grounds during games ever again.in fact, i wouldn't be surprised to see it banned altogether on some health and safety grounds.
     
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  20. yarco canary

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    <party> here you go again,another sidestep
     
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