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Chris Iwelumo

Discussion in 'Watford' started by BerksHorn, Jul 17, 2011.

  1. BerksHorn

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    Rumours on t'net of Chris Iwelumo coming in....good signing?
     
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    I would much prefer Adam Lefrondre. Chris Zabroski has gone to Bristol Rovers. Will always remember Iwelumo for that Scotland miss. Even I would have putthat one away.
     
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    Surely he will be on big wages seeing he is an international player and at a relatively big club.
     
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    he'd certainly bring experience...but is that enough? And as BHD says, can we afford him?
     
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  5. One_Lars_Melvang

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    Iwelumo would be a decent shout, obviously assuming he'd fit in the wage structure.

    He's experienced, fantastic in the air and has consistently scored goals at this level. As for that Scotland miss, any football fan will know that one miss over a career might be memorable but hardly defines a player. Among many others, I remember well Thierry Henry missing an absolute sitter against Southampton years ago. I think he might have snuck into a Watford side, despite his howler...

    The only question mark for me (besides the obvious questions of money and availability) is his pace. Sordell works well alongside a forward who can break quickly alongside him, in my opinion. Graham wasn't a pace merchant but was deceptively quick, so he could keep up with counter attacks. Can the same be said of Iwelumo? Further, would there be a temptation simply to hoof it to the big man, a la Darius Henderson a while back?
     
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    would be a good mentor for deeney.


    We're now also being linked with a loan move for Leigh Griffiths of Wolves.
     
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  7. Elixir69

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    This doesn't make sense.

    He is very expensive - yes there is plenty of space in our budget, but to "prang it all" on one player?
    His style - he is a one dimension target man. If Watford had even considered this style then Troy Deeney would have been the player. I only remember one game where this was the game plan - Notts Co in the League Cup. With Sordell playing off him, things started well. But then we conceded, and I thought the plan unravelled from there. The heads dropped and I thought it looked like the players either didn't believe in the "long ball" game, or it was a plan hatched in a hurry. Either way the experiment was not revisited.

    As for Troy Deeney, he looks lost to me. He is being asked to play wide (ish), yet he is not "coming in off the fullback at the far post" like Mooney perfected in season 2000/01. His transfer fee weighs large on him and this season is crucial for him. Either Dyche will revisit the long ball plan, or I don't know what will save Deeney.
     
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  8. BerksHorn

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    Yeah, I agree with you on Deeney Elixir. This season is very important for him. He puts in a lot of effort and has some nice touches but tbh we need to bring in at least one striker and that striker has to be of a level to go straight into the team with Marvin I'm afraid and not come in as back up for Deeney.
     
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  9. emiatss

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    Yes Iwelumo is a bit of a one-trick pony in terms of having great aerial ability and very little else, and yes his wages might be a problem, but the simply fact is he will score goals at this level, in the region of 10-12 recently. That could be the difference between us being relegated and having the ability to pull away from the danger zone. Worth pranging on in my opinion, even though I think he's had trouble with injuries the last couple of years is definately worth considering.

    Deeney is a bit of a conundrum, but we have to remember with Sordell and Graham playing well all through last season there was simply no way he was going to play striker, and thus he was pushed out to the wing when Mackay abandoned his tactic of four central midfielders across the midfield. When I've seen him, he does look a little like Graham in that he is decent in the air and is deceptively quick, but he doesn't have as good as off-the-ball movement as Graham which contributed to a large amount of his goals. If he starts most of the games i can see him scoring around 10 goals.
     
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  10. HaslemereKev

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    There is a rumour he was at the training ground today!

    I think at the right price, ie not breaking our wage structure, he would be a good signing. He would chip in with some much needed goals, and bring some experience to a very inexperienced front line.
     
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  11. Yellowvoice

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    The trouble is with having a big man up front (like Iwelumo) is that we then play every ball up high and also play the "long ball" aiming for him. Look what happened with Hendo, every ball aimed for him and soon enough defenders knew how to deal it. For that reason I don't think Iwelumo is the type of player for us, we're better off getting a couple of strikers who get the ball played to their feet.
     
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    Remember we've just brought in two out-and-out wingers - with a striker like Iwelumo, the game plan could be to get the ball out wide quick and bombard the opposition box with crosses. I quite like the sound of this style of play - the downside is that if the pass out wide isnt on, then the temptation is to just lump it up to the big man, and hey presto we're back in the Hoofroyd era. Ultimately Iwelumo's wages would surely prevent a deal materialising anyway.
     
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    Seems to be the trouble Laws had at Burnley with this chap.

    Always used as a target man so whilst Iweumo scored it affected their general game and the Burnley fans didn't like it.

    Deeney just needs to find some pace to be a better player.
     
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  14. Norwayhornet

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    We have a lot of lightweight quick nippy players coming throughthe ranks, I think Chris would be a good foil for soredell to play off ,would add some height ,experience to the side , I think he would be a really good signing if we could pull it off without going outside the pay structure!
     
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    That Wolves promotion season with him and Ebanks-Blake, I thought they just bullied everyone- no finesse at all. Very much arms and elbows in the Doris Henderson style. Doesn't he miss a lot of sitters as well?
    The question seems to boil down to - do we need a player like that?
     
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  16. Norwayhornet

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    Maybe yes, doesnt hurt to have someone capable of mixing it up with opposition Centre halves!
     
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  17. Elixir69

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    Who is the second winger we've signed? Yeates, yes .........err if you mean Forsyth, he is no "flying winger".

    Deeney won't suddenly find some pace. Athletes don't develop pace, if they're quick - fantastic, but players don't get quicker. Deeney could develop some "awareness" which would help him.

    I expect a lot of transfer activity at all levels in the lead up to the big kick off, so I look forward to the Wealdstone and AFC games this week.
     
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  18. sotonsaint

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    Is this Sordell kid any good?
     
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  19. Norwayhornet

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    Going to Ipswich for 11million , your too late and yes he is good !!!
     
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  20. Chris 13

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    You'll know when he scores against you because that's the only time he's coming down your way this season.....................
     
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