My brother is quite good at that stuff. I saw him the day after the referendum result and said that it was a disaster. His reply was that it was brilliant as he’d made a small fortune overnight from taking a position on the GBP based on a gamble that Leave would win! He probably did the same yesterday, he’s unlikely to tell me as we’ve agreed Brexit is a subject we shouldn’t really discuss anymore! At least my kid brother is a #Remainernow
Because...? Three options and preferential voting. How's that the death of democracy? You're just repeatedly stating that it is, but not why.
Selfish ****s. Pete;s sat there with a hard on and armed with 548 tweets. And you ****ers are all on here. Mind i'm still non the wiser on what is best.
Because you haven't carried out the democracy of the first referendum result, it's a bit like voting Tory at a GE and saying hey scrap that people, we are putting Labour into power instead. I can't think of any democratic result where the result wasn't fulfilled in the UK.
You will never understand what is best because the Nation is divided. And most of us don't understand ourselves
can you see the present Govt doing that because i can't and i fail to see how any new Govt would have enough time to do it. Anything is possible i suppose but can't see it myself.
A second vote that was a straight choice between no deal and Mays deal would make it a vote that half of the country would swerve completely. I was largely against the idea of a second vote until recently, as the vote was Leave and my view was that we should leave in the least damaging way possible and fulfil the vote. The exception being a complete impasse in Parliament. However, since all of the stuff about Banks came out I’ve changed my mind. A man who supposedly gave £8m of his own cash to a political campaign and yet lives in a £900k house with a £500k mortgage just doesn’t add up. The ties between, him Farage, Trump, Bannon and the Ruskis is quite suspicious to say the least. Wherever the money came from it wasn’t his, so therefore that campaign was bent. The margin of victory was a 700k swing and that cash will have had an impact. As the Ashcroft poll after the vote clearly showed that a large chunk of voters only made their minds up in days running up to the vote or in the day itself. Therefore the result isn’t secure anyway imo, and so a second vote now would be justified anyway imo. A 2 stage question would be my choice. 1. Do you want to accept the deal to leave the EU - yes or no. 2. In the event the result is no, then would you choose to leave the EU with no deal or Remain in the EU?
It’s like having another GE. There was less time in between the last two GE than there would be between two referendums if we had the second one now.
That's the fault of the first referendum and the intentionally misleading leave campaigns. Imagine if a general election was held and there were two choices, Conservative and Not Conservative. The Not Conservative promoters all suggest that this could mean Labour, Lib Dem or some mixture of the two and definitely not The BNP. The Tories tell everyone that a vote against them would be disastrous and that anyone could get in if it's not them. The Not Conservatives win and a BNP government is proposed. Why should that result stand?
I do believe the 48 letters will be held back now until the signing off of the draft with the EU, it will never get through Parliament ffs and then we will probably see the biggest breakdown yet of an elected government. For me, there's a lot of MP's letting their constituents down today by supporting this total utter ****e from May. If you ever want to **** something up, stick 300+ lazy, affluent noneties in government, give them 2 years plus to come up with a plan and when you finally have an idea find that No10 doors are shut.. This debacle will destroy the Tories and for a lot of safe seats, the simple fact that they didn't put a letter in to get rid of the worst Prime Minister ever..
Most politicians have plenty to hide. I made a decision based on my own lifetime thoughts, not those of Farage, Trump, Bannon and Ruskis or anyone else. Maybe i'm an exception to the norm, i have always been anti EU State and always will be, but i think most posters who have followed my comments for the last two and half years, know my reasons for wanting to leave...again not based on the tar brush. I also believe a democratic outcome should be fulfilled which is why i disagree with a remain option. However, i do find it interesting what people should see as being in the public vote, as i don't have a hard and fast rule on that myself. My other concern is people probably will argue what should be included in that ballot paper, and then we will all end up going off around in circles again.
Actually this is the first time the nation is united since the referendum was called since now everyone is pissed off all at the same time
Oh come on! You trying to tell me politicians are upstanding and honest people who never tell lies. Misleading, that's every politicians middle name!
My point was is a GE is always upheld initially. People are trying to revoke Brexit before the leave date.
There's a difference between misleading and intentionally bullshitting so that you can personally profit while ****ing over the country. If you get caught out before the result is implemented, then you can't moan if your victims don't want to follow through with your con. Add to that the fact that the leave campaigns broke the law and a couple of them were funded by a hostile foreign power and it should be over. When that same foreign power starts killing people in our country, then it should be a massive scandal. Our Prime Minister decided to suppress the investigation, instead.
