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Discussion in 'Horse Racing' started by Cyclonic, May 17, 2015.

  1. smokethedeadbadger

    smokethedeadbadger Well-Known Member

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    Yes mate very interesting fight for him. And no doubt if he wins the comparisons will start against George Groves performance against Rebrasse. Its not a great card but Callum's fight and Rocky Fielding going up against Brian Vera make it a card to be interested in
     
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  2. Cyclonic

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    Betting for the Ruenroeng v Casimero fight tomorrow. The Champ Ruenroeng 2-9, Casimero 3-1. The challenger certainly has his work cut out for him.
     
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    If I could throw in a boxer who one of my best mates told me to google and look up, to which im glad he did was the enigmatic Jack Johnson, who was the very first African American World Heavyweight champion at the turn of the 1900's.

    Boxing isn't one of my strongest suits when coming to recollect some of the great and good in this sport but this bloke broke probably every rule that was around at the time and broke a few that hadn't been even thought up...!!! Please do check this man's story if you can, there is even a film about him which I will try and find and post up. It makes for very interesting watching...

    Just one of the many stories that ive read about him was once when he was travelling by car from one town to the next when a police officer stopped him for speeding. Jack told the officer that he always drives this fast and wont change his ways now, to which the police officer then proceeded to write up a speeding ticket for $50's. Jack handed him £100's and said if he waited long enough he could keep the other $50's when he returns back down this road so he didn't have to stop and talk to him...!!!

    Ive put the google link up so you can take a look if you want... Jack Johnson Wiki
     
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    smokethedeadbadger Well-Known Member

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    In my top 5 heavyweights of all time Redgull
     
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  5. Cyclonic

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    Yesterday's IBF Flyweight Title fight between Rouenroeng and Casimero was one ugly affair. The ref went missing most of the time (they should dock his pay) which let the bout slip into what was better described as an alley scrap. I won't post the result. It's easy to find the outcome if you can't be bothered waiting the 41 minutes. The commentary can't be understood, but leaving the sound on does add a bit of atmosphere.

     
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  6. smokethedeadbadger

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    Cheers for posting Cyc. Very messy fight. I don't suppose you know what judges scorecards were do you? I can't seem to find them online and I'd be interested to see how they scored it
     
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    No mate, they said they'd post them later.
     
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  8. Cyclonic

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    I don't know how true it is Kenny, but a site in Japan posted the scores as, 116-110, 115-110 and 113-112.
     
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  9. smokethedeadbadger

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    I think the last score would be more accurate i found it quite tough to score and was pretty close in the end. Rouenroeng should have had more points deducted than he did for pushing and holding. He also touched down despite the referee calling it a slip the judges can still score it a knockdown. I'm a big believer in giving the benefit of doubt to the champion in close fights though as I think of you are challenging for a world title I think you need to convince not just do enough. So I wouldn't argue with the overall decision
     
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    And this is the man they all have to beat, Roman Gonzales. He would be a huge step up for Rouenroeng.

     
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    Ron Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Hmmmmmmm. Good luck
     
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    A couple of really little guys take to the ring tonight in Mazatlan, Sinaloa, Mexico, for the WBC World Light Flyweight Title, a bout with a limit of just 108 pounds. The fight is between the Champion Pedro Guevara who is making his second defence, and the mandatory challenger Ganigan Lopez, also of Mexico. Both men have a better than 50 percent knock out records, but the Champ who beat the talented Akira Yaegashi, is expected to be too good. Lopez earned the right to take a crack at the title with a 12 round win over former Strawweight Titlist Mario Rodriguez last January. The champ Guevara is on record as predicting an early stoppage. The fight will be broadcast in Mexico on Televisa, so maybe a streaming site will allow some viewing.
     
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    Definitely has the potential to be a very exciting fight this one Cyc. Expected to be an all action scrap and a stoppage looks almost a dead cert. Will hopefully be on YouTube soon after so we get to see it
     
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    Interesting read that is but do they count punches landed as landing on head or body or are they counting them landing on arms and shoulders aswell? I've watched the fight a few times and there wasn't many occasions were Manny got through Mayweathers guard and actually landed a decent or clean body shot or head shot. But regardless I wouldn't score a fight solely on punches thrown and landed either. Obviously it's very subjective how you score it yourself and what you look for but you have to look at the quality of work and quality of shots landed. Mayweather controlled the pace of the fight controlled the direction of the fight, picked and through the more quality shots. Pacqioua threw a furry of punches on several occasions but the quality was poor. I think the one thing that could have persuaded the judges in Pacqiouas favour would have been if he'd been the aggressor and been on the front foot coming forward all the fight like he usually does. But that didn't happen and I think it threw him off a bit that Mayweather was the one coming forward as it was unexpected. Mayweather is usually a defensive fighter who picks people off counter punching so nobody was expecting him coming forward and I think that messed up Pacqiouas game plan.

    The fights had a bit of criticism since taking place because it didn't live up to the 'fight of the century' tag. But for me I love watching Mayweather fight he's and absolute master at what he does. Andre Ward is very similar, he's that much better than anyone around him his fights appear boring.
     
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    How is this for a piece of priceless art? The man himself, Jack Johnson.

     
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    smokethedeadbadger Well-Known Member

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    Nice one Cyc, I'm off out on the piss soon so haven't got time to watch it now but I'll definitely watch it when I get the chance. He was an absolute beast Jack Johnson
     
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    I can't find film of last night's Pedro Guevara WBC defence against Ganigan Lopez, but the bout went the distance with the champ winning by a large margin, 116-112, 116-112 and 117-111. Those expecting a fight, ended up with some boxing. The early rounds saw a tentative display from both men, but then Guevara began to step up things. At the end of the eighth round, the revealed scores saw Guevara leading 79-73, 79-73, 78-74. It was at this point that Lopez knew that it all now depended on a knockout. He began to pressure Guevara, stunning him in the round ten, then after an uppercut, the champ hit the deck in the eleventh. The ref ruled a slip, and subsequent film proved the ref right. Guevara was much too good, and prevailed in his home town, but the challenger left the ring with the respect of the crowd ringing in his ears.
     
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    smokethedeadbadger Well-Known Member

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    Cheers Cyc, appreciate the write up
     
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    A nice piece of old Film. Ray Robinson v Rocky Graziano.

     
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