Perhaps viewing from outside it's a bit easier to see a bigger picture? The Andy Carroll loan to west ham seems to be the catalyst of it all but do you really want to see Liverpool play a system that will make Andy Carroll effective which in truth requires you to play Big Sams hoofball with runners latching onto flick ons,which certainly isnt how to get the best out of Suarez,and renders the midfield a redundant area? Or would you rather see Liverpool play the possession type football from Paisleys era when it was played out from the back and the opposition were reduced to feeding off scraps through being starved of the ball? I've read people saying this current side aren't good enough to do that bit if Rodgers could get the likes of Ashley Williams to play out from the back like Hansen then for better footballers like Agger it shouldnt be an issue either but with all new systems it takes time and patience to implement The fixtures couldve been kinder for what is an awfully difficult first 6 matches which I thought you would do well to average a point per game from but that's the way it goes. Having seen the effect of Hodgsons dour football take Liverpool back 5 years as far as progression goes,coupled with Dalglish' recruitment chaos,surely now Liverpool have the right man in place it's time to give him breathing space to get them playing how he wants them to. Yesterday they gave the ball away countless times when choosing the wrong option when the simple ball and retaining possession was the easier route. In my opinion not having Lucas to sit and protect the back 4 is of more concern than allowing Carroll to leave as if Carrolls in the team as sure as anything the 40 yd lump it ball will come out and that's the opposite of what Rodgers is after Is it not better,rather than to waste 20 million or so on a striker now on the wrong man for the future,it's better to wait for the system to be working before adding to it? Dempsey would only have been a short term answer and I couldn't see him and Suarez playing together Given time i think Rodgers will do very well for you
I've not given up on Rodgers nor indeed FSG; however, calling the transfer window anything other than disappointing would be naive optimism. Allen looks a real gem, Sahin could be good loan. Up front though... Borini has had a poor Start. We've signed two german kids we may see little of for a year or more. In exchange we lost Carroll, Maxi, Kuyt and Bellamy... and we were already weak up front. Don't get me wrong... I'm not asking we gather pitch folks and tar torches and storm the castle. FSG and BR had a bad xfer season (most likely unless the Germans save us)... but I feel both can be good for the club long term... maybe.
One thing that astonished me about Swansea last season was the amount of clean sheets they got, minimize the amount of defensive mistakes and hopefully that will get better. The bigger picture is that we should start doing well once the United game is over and most of the tough fixtures are out of the way. But for that to happen we need to score more than we concede. I would like to say I look forward to Rodgers' Liverpool next season or the season after that, but with these owners I don't hold much hope.
Thanks for the post, having seen your contributions on here before I know you are a genuine football supporter. I agree with the sentiment of your post and yes we can all understand the reasons for Carrols departure. However I disagree with the short term Dempsey view; yes compared to say Borini he is coming to the end of his career but in many ways Borini is more of a risk because he has to adapt to a new league, incredible levels of expectation and hence huge pressure. Dempsey would have been making a step up but I feel he has the mentality and maturity to do it, also he is well versed in the league already and seems tone getting better. In football terms 3 or 4 years is an age and no question we would have got that out of him barring injury, after all most contracts are for that length anyway. Also the issue with Carrol is purely the lack of replacement.
We need to keep possession a lot better. It's almost unreal, but literally every time we give the ball away cheaply, we are punished. Players like Gerrard and sometimes Shelvey want to play that long incisive ball and it doesn't come off. Possession comes with patience, and I'm not sure we have the right personnel to pull this off. Even Suarez is more interested in the clever one touch flick ons (which have been wasteful recently), when it would be more useful to control the ball and then play it.
this is all fine but.... it was not january its the summer window where the biggest flaw was solved by signing a 21 year old out of italy for 11mil... except he is stuck wide right and does nothing... i agree on dempsey i think personally AVB is thinking WTF right now... whats he doing here? but if 20mil had existed it should have been spent on the right option this summer...... cos this is now building to the perfect storm and i can see circumstances where rodgers gets the sack not having been given a chance to do it...
It's a problem with having so many British players who haven't been coached from childhood how to pass the ball and retain possession We have Gareth Barry who simply has to break play up and give the ball to the nearest better player which works really well for us but put him in an England shirt and the lack of options to distribute the ball usually ends up with the ball given away Joe Allen looks like one of the few who really know how to play this way and surely he should be the main focal point in your midfield now rather than Gerrard?
It's another reason why Scott Parker looks so good playing along side Modric, than in the National team. Agree on Joe Allen. He has exceeded my expectations and then some. The encouraging thing for me is our acadamy - who have had extensive emphasis on the technical game. Sterling is a fine example - his touch, control and passing are natural but also developed under the eyes of Segura and Borrell (our youth team coaches). Even young Adam Morgan (who started against Hearts) controlled the ball and passed very well (here's me thinking he was one of the less technical youngsters on our books). Gerrard should not be the focal point, nor should be playing so deep in our midfield. IF he is to play, he shoudl play as the false 9 or anywhere along the front line. A midfield trio of Allen, Lucas and Sahin have the technique and patience to build attacks rather than forcing it with hollywood balls.
I think Brendan will be given time as he's thier man they appointed him and have a lot of personal credability invested in him. Even if at this moment in time they are secretly thinking we will only guarantee him one full season, at least by May we/they will all have a better idea if what he's trying to do is working and either support his plans or think about an alternative.
Ffs gents - we've played 3 games and you are talking about giving Rodgers time?! Give him 3 seasons then we can have a reasonable debate. ****ing ludicrous.
So you want the old Paisley style back, huh? So you'd rather have somebody who studied under Saint Bob than somebody who studied under, say, Jose Mourinho with his long balls to Drogba? Somebody like Kenny, then. Good man. That's sound judgement. He's actually won stuff. However, you do Andy a disservice if you think that's all he is. I wouldn't say Drogba is a hoofball target any more than Toshack was, though both could play that way when required. And sometimes it's required. But not in Rodgersworld, where there is only one way. Either that is complete and utter arrogance, and unfounded arrogance at that, or he just doesn't know how to play more direct when it's needed. Even Barca had Ibrahimovich.
As much as I can't abide the odious ferguson,his way or out the door has been a recipe for 20 odd years of constant success for the rags
And Ibrahimovic ruined Messi's game. They sold him off and won the treble, didn't they? Not bad. At the end of the day, good players should be able to play in a way that suits their situation.
