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Bastille Day Attack

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by Zingy, Jul 15, 2016.

  1. Jimmy Squarefoot

    Jimmy Squarefoot Well-Known Member

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    Due to fly out to Nice next Tuesday with my girlfriend but may not have to rethink it.

    Thoughts go out to the families. Awful news.
     
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  2. DirtyFrank

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    You'll be grand security wise unless you mean it'll be a depressing place to be on holiday. Understandable if it's that reason..you can't change what happened and you'll not be of much help to strangers who lost loved ones and it IS your holiday mate which you've earned...

    Long term and in general Nice will want people to still come after they've mourned ..it's their economy and why should they suffer more because of bastards like this?

    Look at how Parisians talked about how the fun fans brought during euros gave them a lift.

    But yeah..next week it'll be a sombre place.
     
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  3. LuisDiazgamechanger

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    When people are determined to commit evil, it's always difficult if not impossible to stop them. State of emergency was about to
    be lifted, people are relaxed. We are talking about people who are not scared to die for their cause.
     
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  4. Lucaaas

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    Personally I think there might be an element of the French breathing a huge sigh of relief thinking the Euros are over and nothing happened, which made them believe they were safe and the worst of it was over.

    I wouldn't be surprised if people like that guy with explosives & guns in his car were just decoys to make the French feel as if their security measures were working during the Euros and to make the French feel safe before doing this. It was almost expected during the Euros so no one would've been that surprised if it did happen, this way it has a much worse impact somehow, IMO.
     
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  5. Jeremy Hillary Boob

    Jeremy Hillary Boob GC Thread Terminator

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    Off his ****ing head on hashish courage, no doubt.
     
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  6. Rum & Black for 2

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    Just another coward.
     
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  7. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Imo a time will come where either enough is just enough or some hawks get elected in us and europe and they roll tanks across the region agai.

    This time theyll be force marching all syrians back home though.
     
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  8. Page_Moss_Kopite

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    Or, street justice will prevail and sadly lots of innocents will no doubt be hurt or worse, seems that British, French, German, American etc born fundamentalists happily commit murderous crimes against their own(nationality wise)people because its not about nationality, its about religion and a way of life and freedoms(ours)

    ISIS, ISIL, Daesh or what ever they're called want to firstly establish a caliphate and then force the rest of the world to follow suit, they want a replicated world from the time of Mohammed along with the vile and cruel medievil punishments etc for not following their doctrine.
    Funny how the cowardly ****s want to live in the middle ages but they don't ride horses into battle or use Scimitar's instead of using the armed trucks and guns and bombs the rest of the non Muslim world that they hate so much produce.
     
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  9. Zanjinho

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    It's already happened now
     
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  10. Lucaaas

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    Probably the safest place to be in the coming weeks.

    Though I reckon the city will be a little bit depressed so you won't be seeing the city or its people properly.
     
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  11. Treble

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  12. DirtyFrank

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    Mweh, as I said earlier...whatever his "excuse" ...man unhappy with himself decides it's everyone's fault but his own
    ..and acts on that thought...
     
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  13. Treble

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    I never claimed it was an excuse.
     
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  14. DirtyFrank

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    What? ISIS or mental illness?
     
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  15. Treble

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    Neither are an excuse. Just addressing presumptions on this thread.
     
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  16. DirtyFrank

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    OK. Think most have suggested that even if the guy was yelling God is Great as witnesses have claimed he wasn't directly involved with ISIS but more an angry man using Islam as a justification for his actions.

    As for his Dad's stuff...Very very few people that have nervous breakdowns are capable of the careful planning this guy seems to have carried out...alone or otherwise..
     
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  17. DirtyFrank

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    Wasn't disagreeing with your main point though T...No evidence he's working directly for an Islamic terrorists organisation of any description yet....
     
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  18. Treble

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    I'm not saying it's one or the other, but there's very little to go by. Personally, I find the idea of a medicated loner in a truck deciding to career into hundreds of bystanders shooting a pistol unlikely to be part of some organised terrorist plot. But that's just my personal opinion and I want to know more facts before deciding. I'm just weary what we (as the media or society in general) class as an act of terrorism or a case of mass-murder. And why the connotation of terrorism means it's linked to ISIS or any particular religion.
     
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  19. Diego

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    I think you may be trying to make things too black and white, people do not have to have links to or be instructed by any organisation to act in it's name, if they sympathise/agree with the cause they may just act on their own to "help the cause".
    Think of it like a very excessive way of voting, you may not be a member of the party but you agree with them and vote for them anyway.

    I do agree we shouldn't just jump to conclusions though.
     
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  20. Treble

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    The thing is we don't know if this guy does sympathise or agree with the cause or even if he's doing it in the name of religion. He could well be, but we don't have enough facts yet.

    It seems like any nutjob that commits mass murder who happens to follow any major religion, is a terrorist who's doing it for that cause. It could be he's just a nutjob.
     
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