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Match Day Thread Barnsley v QPR

Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by QPR999, Sep 26, 2017.

  1. Star of David Bardsley

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    You'd have to tell me what that position is as I still don't know.

    I've seen Yeni up front, wide left, wide right and somewhere vaguely in the middle to little effect. Lua Lua is a decent player from what I've seen but not worth picking over our own players IMO. I can understand why he's a good option when we're chasing a game.
     
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  2. awjm

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    LuaLua is a winger who can be played as striker.
    N'gbakoto has historically played CAM, striker and winger.
    For most of the time at QPR, they've both often been used as central midfielders with the occasional use on the wing. On the wing, N'gbakoto has actually looked quite good as a sub but hasn't started in that position (as far as I can remember).

    To be fair to them, it's hard to really get into the swing of things if you only get a cameo appearance from time to time.

    And just because LuaLua is on loan it doesn't mean that he won't have a good attitude. He also could be ours if he becomes a success.

    By the way, my point here isn't that they're our answer or they're much better than we've had. My point is that they haven't really been given a chance at any point and have often been used in a position that is not best suited to them.

    And my even more generalised point is about the lack of real opportunities some players are getting when others seem to get chance after chance even though there isn't much final product. Can anyone see anything wrong with N'gbakoto or Sylla getting a chance to start ahead of Washington. I don't even have anything against Washington but surely we can try a few options.
     
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  3. Lawrence Jacoby

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    Don’t agree re Clint Hill at all
    Bap and Robinson are looking better each match and predict they will become fans favourites Clint is over the Hill hasn’t played and would imo be miles off the pace
    He is a great memory that’s it

    We have nothing to worry about at the back at all I cannot see it at all we take no prisoners at the moment

    Alex Bapstise is looking very very good imo Legend in the making for QPR

    Fulham game enjoy it and stop worrying at least we will put out a side that won’t give up The match itself is a derby so can go either way
     
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    It's just one game that sticks in my mind but at Rotherham Yeni was played left wing in a 4-3-3. Both he and Chery had little defensive responsibility whatsoever and he was awful (as almost all of them were that day).

    Washington probably doesn't have the quality of Yeni or Sylla on the ball but even at his worst he's an asset without the ball. Yeni in particular looks like a guy who has only ever played five-a-side. When he's on the ball he can be effective but both his runs when we have it and his defensive work when we don't are genuinely non-league level still and he's not a kid. If it is something that can be coached I'm not sure but how long do we give to get those basics right?

    Similarly someone like Wheeler might not have the ability to smash one in from 30 yards like Yeni might, but you know he'll do a particular job if asked even when he's not on form. For me, that's why they should both get in over him. Lua Lua is better as the 'x factor' player when we need something different.
     
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    This sums up my thoughts on our current squad pretty well. Washington is a much better player than Mackie is but gets a lot of stick, whilst Mackie is treated as some kind of hero. It's not even as if Mackie works any harder than Washington. Wszolek is overrated in my opinion. He has pace and some ability, but doesn't produce enough. As you say, Robinson is a natural, and he has performed very well as auxiliary CB. He could well develop into a very good player in that position, but I expect he will return to left-back when others return from injury. He should be first choice LB, though. In Scowen, Luongo and Freeman we have an excellent midfield three, with good cover available in the likes of Manning and Cousins. The brief glimpses of Wheeler
    and Samuel have looked promising and overall I think that the management team have assembled a decent squad on bugger-all money. My biggest reservation is Holloway's tactical tinkering and playing people out of position.
     
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  6. SW Ranger

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    That's great if you want to pass the ball around the middle of the park. We need to defend, keep clean sheets and score goals. Teams will just pass by our midfield and take points from us.
    When will this tinkering and putting players in unfamiliar positions stop?
     
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  7. Tramore Ranger

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    Not sure this is where we're at.......we're trying to defend from the front so you need players who can press for the whole game, this enables the midfield to play higher up the pitch and in Scowan who can read the game and mop up anything that gets close to the back 4. We're no where near the finished article at the moment but we're so much better than last season although the stats are almost identical, but I get the feeling we can get points from most sides these days even if we go behind whereas last season once we conceeded that was it.

    The other thing that I feel is a bit of a red herring is this obsession people have about keeping clean sheets, that only applies if the game ends 0-0 otherwise as long as you score more than the opposition you win, simples..........

    Up the R's
     
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