This was posted by Sb on a thread that I was posting on. Some other posters came on and agreed with his sentiments. I had been drawn into an argument with DT and it got a little heated. "Interesting that this poll is overall pro Hughes, but the share of voice in terms of posts on here is overwhelmingly anti, with a few hardy souls putting up a fight. Frankly I'm as pissed off as anyone that we aren't winning, but the overwhelming number of negative threads full of bile (do you really need a thread each to vent your spleen lads? "mentally ill or thick?" - thought you were better than that Col) is what's stopping me posting, it's just stunningly dull, anyone who contradicts the vocal minority just gets accused of being 'in denial' or 'delusional' so I can't be arsed, and it seems I'm far from alone, there are some good guys who voted on this who never seem to post nowadays. That can't be blamed on Swords and DT who haven't been around lately. It's not the content, if you don't like Hughes that's fair enough, it's the tone, repetition and malice. Knock yourselves out lads, you've got the floor to yourselves." However, the reason for this thread is to apologies to anyone who thinks I have been over-critical of those wanting Hughes to remain in charge. It is purely down to my utter frustration with the situation and love for the club. Also, using the term "mentally ill" was wrong. Hopefully I'm completely wrong and Hughes will turn things around. I sincerely hope so as I also do not want a revolving door policy with regards to managers again. He has the players to do it. He just needs to get them playing in a winning way. Again, I apologise if my posts have been unreasonable. I'm taking a break from posting for a while. URrrrrsssssssss!!
Col, im with you on that. The African thread has turned me away. I enjoy reasonable debate but the posts by queenslander quite shocked me and i realised we are very limited to opinion without some pc prat hijacking!. Signing out with best wishes to all and no hard feelings. Oh and come on you R'ss
Good points and total respect for a great post . I have watched this forum take a dive into a place just to slag off any aspect of our team. I don't like it and needed to let off steam and apologies but you were the one I picked on ... I apologise while heartily for that . We are not going to be relegated IMO and I truly believe we get behind our club our team and our manager ... It builds character This forum is just hot air and very very addictive hence the reason why I have to kill my accounts to stop me posting No one knows the outcome of QPR football matches at the moment because we are a new team trying to get right on real time ... Training is one thing but you have 90 minutes in a pressure cooker each week to do that. We are a club who has been so lucky to find someone who believes on us I don't forget that Co! ( that is your new logo) you are without doubt one of the finest most passionate posters on here but recently mate you are losing it ... Everyone is Chill mate take a break if you need to But return ... It works
At the risk of turning this into the Truth and Reconciliation Commission, I'd just like to stress that the purpose of my post was certainly not to discourage anyone from posting, especially not Col and Bob who always have something to say. It was more to point out why what seems to me to be a significant number of us aren't bothering so much at the moment. We are all frustrated, and this is definitely the place to vent, last thing I want is a hyper polite, no treading on toes forum, or a situation where every R's cat lives in fear. For the first time in a month I am not jet lagged, and have recovered from a colossal Guinness and herbal relaxation induced hangover fuelled pre match on Saturday (those comfy Emirates seats nearly had me sleeping it off early...) and am ready to rejoin the fray on the sacking him gets us nowhere side. Seconds out, let's keep it clean.
Rangercol you have nothing to apologise for - DT3 especially has his opinion and wants to make sure that we know we are all idiots for not holding the same. DT3 and the like are not fond of facts, figures, trends and believe in just having faith. I just ask one question of the believers in Hughes - Where are you getting this from because apart from the City away game - How many have we even had a sniff of winning after 60 mins? I ask this, as this is the time when manager's earn their corn and change tactics, personnel accordingly - Hughes just stands with his arms folded looking aimlessly and lost. By the way Rangercol - I get to see every game live on TV here (not streamed either) - your posts go someway to making me feel the atmosphere of being there as well - Cheers mate and come on you rrrrrrrrrs.
Hes not usually like that, Ive known him for years and hes always been reasonable even though we had a difference of opinions most of the time.
Great question and the answer is Everton, Chelsea and Arsenal ... we have nothing to show for it but you comments again require a challenge why?. Because Hughes has got his tactics nearly spot on each time with a new team against established world class teams. Co! like many have IMO lost sight of what is being built here. You look at results and can't see the growth. I believe in good football first and that gives me faith about our team. The problem is IMO our/my expectations have grown out of proportion. The same disease is happening throughout this league now ... Villa are calling for PL's head as he is playing new players... good for him. Liverpool want to win the league every year but they are just a middle team now. TF wants us to become a force and sorry but ii believe it's only a compete idiot like you say who would upset and gamble on a new manager now. Slow sustained growth and if it works we will remember the times we sat at the foot of the table ... nothing is easy at this level. This board goes haywire after defeat .. you have to taste it embrace ... like a split lip suck on your own blood .. feel the pain , set the parameters of life and learn... running around like children screaming for change without even having any idea of a solution needs stamping out
Bob. I appologise for that and appologise for being offended...(not sure i should?). As a black person it was the first time i have taken offence to anything like that for literally years i did not aim anything at you and only put across a legitimate argument that i backed up with facts. I sincerely hope you choose to stay on this board and hope i am not the voice that makes you leave. I am in no way PC and my history reflects that "very much"!. I replied as i did because quite frankly i (am black and) was astounded and even said i thought Igor had just miss-worded the OP. i hope you accept my appology for being offended, but if you dont then thats your perogative. Seems like an excuse to me personally. just because i dont agree with you and i feel offended, then you need to leave?..dont understand that? As for you Col. dont think you need to appologise for anything, but you have had the ba**s to stand up and do it; so fair play to you. its over and done mate. keep em coming. Love your posts !!-even if i dont agree with them all !
I get frustrated with these boards myself and have got to the stage where I tend to avoid them after a defeat. However, I am not convinced they are representative of our fan base as a whole. I often talk to people on the journey to and from the game and they seem generally less scathing of our performances than I read about on here. I think people use the boards to vent their frustration which I understand but everyone who doesn't agree with their views is somehow branded as 'delusional' or 'the pro Hughes camp' which I find frustrating.
DT 3 - The question was how many away games have we had a sniff of winning? At what point did we look like winning on Saturday. You have so much faith in Tony Fernandes but he = Chris Wright , only difference is Chris truely loved and still does love us. "I believe in good football first" - Well I believe in a balanced side able to attack and defend in unison and at speed. I don't believe in a side that at the merest hint of a threat panicks like mad. "TF wants us to become a force and sorry but ii believe it's only a compete idiot like you say who would upset and gamble on a new manager now." Well DT, FYI TF doesn't have the money or the gumption to keep on throwing money at 2 bottom teams in the most expensive "leagues". He is heavily backed by others and soon enough the decision will not be his. By the way, an idiot is someone who keeps on making the same mistake - look back to 95-96 and the fall out from there my dear friend.
Bang on the money ... i started calling it all fickle and have watched the mud slinging and name calling so i am joining in and will back anyone who does so. I want stability and growth for our club because i know that is the only way that you get to be established. Win or lose you support the team would be a good place to start but nowadays its all about must win must win ... it's ruining the whole outlook and clearly look what it has done to the entertainment on here. You need order in order to progress IMO
Saturday I was there at Arsenal ... yep Arsenal a footballing giant and yes right up until the 85 minute i thought we could nick it... when they scored I still thought we could come back ... but that is me and that is why I won so many football games in my past ... that can't be brought ... it has to come from within. You theory on TF and the club is incorrect and you are wrong ... he has never said there would be instant success. A idiot is someone who could just make one mistake in my book. If you believe in good football then watch our games again because QPR has not played this well for many many years ... and any idiot could see that
No hard feelings queenslander. I have an adopted black brother and sister who mean the world to me and racism is a hard fact of life. But i think sometimes innocent comments can be dissected in various ways to suit a reader (or not as the case may be). I think we all know igors post had no intention of racism. Its like the post about you saying there will be some hot women qpr fans. Disect it and you could be accused of meaning most are ugly! I rate you as a poster and i will be quieting down on here due to my Mrs being a day over due for our second child. Peace
Bob. thank you mate and really do like your posts. i especially like the fact that you've prob forgotten more about "the beautiful game" than most of us will ever know. Please doint quieten down because of me or anyone else. Finally..a massive congrats on the imminent arrival of your 2nd. I've done that mate and you will have your hands full. Good luck to you and Mrs Bobmid. hope everything goes well for the 2 of you. please pass on my regards. I have spoken to igor to explain my feelings to him and am awaiting a reply. I think we all know what he was trying to say. Good luck brother. Hopefully; by the time No.2 arrives we may have moved up the ladder...or have a new manager ! Peace.
Cheers queens and if you've been through anything like my siblings then i respect you totally. If i honestly thought there was a racist vibe i would be right on it along with you.
Tactics spot on? Hes got a top half team and hes broken them into a bottom of the table team. Hes got it wrong in virtually every match by being too negative. Looks what happened last year when we had a go at teams, we beat the top teams. We would have beaten Arsenal if he knew what he was doing.
One more thing queenslander, i have been in the game (coaching) at various levels for over 14 years now and firmly believe that just cos i have some uefa qualifications, it doesn't mean i know any more or any less than all football fans. The whole game is based on personal opinions. This is why there are sackings and hirings in football managment. Its like the Rob green scenario, someone better came along and in hindsight maybe a mistake was made. It can easily be the same with a manager. I never wanted Mark Hughes to take over as i have been on his seminar when with Wales and his distinct lack of personality and his robotic style of coaching was too old school for my liking. Unfortunately for us my instinct is at least proving me right as we literally languish at the bottom of the league. I believe that he needs to realise his over cautious approach to games maybe isn't working as he thought and that other teams should try to neutralize our obvious talent instead.
DT3, the way the club is presently run is not just theory, TF is not and was not sole investor when he was brought in as the head of his investment team to take over Flbio's and Bernie's shares. TF has invested in this for the sole purpose of increasing the Air Asia Group of companies' media prominence. That he has no real love for QPR, I have no problem with that. What I do have a problem with is that he's backing himself into a corner I'm afraid he's not going to be able to get out of. By the same insistance of continuously supporting Hughes he's making things more difficult for everyone - Hughes included. As for the best football ever played by QPR - Sorry but you're wrong for the moment - That doesn't mean I don't desperately want you to be right, but we have no cutting edge, some very pretty patterns occaisionaly but that's it. As for Arsenal being a football giant, you obviously don't watch them too often. I for my sins get to see every game in its entireity over here.
