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A Question of Faith

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by GroveRanger, Nov 23, 2011.

  1. GroveRanger

    GroveRanger Well-Known Member

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    We've all expressed our different opinions regarding religion in the past, some positive, others negative (me). For those of you with faith/religion has there ever been a time where you've thought "hang on, that can't be right, there is no way in the world I'm accepting that!"

    What got me round to thinking this was a look at how Mormons got going. It all started when Joseph Smith Jnr was shown a book (by an angel) written on golden tablets (by a previous race of people) which he then translated into the Book of Mormon. This book written on golden tablets was then buried for safe keeping and Smith apparently forgot where it was but no need to worry because his version would be all Mormons needed to lead the good life.

    There are about 10million Mormons so something must appeal.

    That led my curiosity on to Scientology. If it is good enough for John Travolta and Tom Cruise then why not. An entirely made up "religion" created by sci-fi writer Ron Hubbard in the 1950's where we are all meant to be immortal beings who have previously lived on other planets in the universe.

    There are about 8million followers of Scientology so there must be something that strikes a chord with them too.

    I think that both Mormon and Scientology are examples of human beings needing to fill a void in their lives, instead of asking questions it is easier to accept someone elses answers. A book written by a previous race? In English I suppose? We are all immortal and used to live on Uranus (!)

    I may pour scorn but this looks like keeping 18million souls happy, but my question is this - how on earth can anyone believe this horsesh*te?

    Nothing but love for my fellow yuman beans though.
     
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  2. GasheadinChelt

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    GroveRanger interesting points raised there. However Scientology is not a religion - it was set up as a tax dodge by L Ron Hubbard that the gullible (aka Americans) started believing. It must therefore be considered a cult.
     
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  3. RAVENBLACK

    RAVENBLACK Well-Known Member

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    Why not?

    Its no more implausible than any other half arsed theories based on no ****ing evidence whatsoever.
     
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  4. GroveRanger

    GroveRanger Well-Known Member

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    Scientology has been given official status as a religion in many countries but not here, yet. Scary. As if Tom Cruise isn't bad enough they believe that space aliens put atom bombs inside volcanoes and are buried in the earth ready to come back to life. Or maybe I made that sh*t up, what's the difference?

    Mormon is just mental but when it started that kind of tub thumping revivalism was just what the peasants in the US wanted.

    The scary thing is Christianity, Judaism, Islam all started off small and their followers were persecuted and beliefs mocked. Who knew?
     
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  5. Mind The Duck

    Mind The Duck Well-Known Member

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    Joseph Smith talked to god through a magic hat....not wearing it....talking into it

    He believed native americans were exiled Jews

    Still as funny as it sounds they were quite fanatical and persecuted non mormans like the KKK persecuted blacks.....though on a smaller scale

    Still, rather live near them than atheists
     
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    ManDingo 20"/20" MDMA Guru

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    Because atheists cause all the worlds problems.
     
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    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member
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    Scientology isn't a religion, it's a scam.
     
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  8. Mind The Duck

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    <ok>
     
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  9. Mind The Duck

    Mind The Duck Well-Known Member

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    Why would you want to?
     
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  10. MrWright!

    MrWright! Active Member

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    If got is omnipotent can he create a big **** off rock that he himself can't move?

    If any religion can answer this i will follow them.
     
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  11. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    yes

    welcome brother <ok>
     
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  12. DevAdvocate

    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

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    Stealing my sig <grr>
     
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  13. Bullet tooth Tony

    Bullet tooth Tony Well-Known Member

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    Mormons believe God is a Woman, yes female. If they are right we are all ****ed, or may be that's why something bad happens every month.
     
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  14. Toby

    Toby GC's Life Coach

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    Good, I wouldn't want to live anywhere near a ****wit like you <ok>
     
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  15. sycorez

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    IMO Most people rarely question what they are taught.
    They rebel when they become delusional with what they were told to be true and turns out (to them) it is not.
    That&#8217;s why you have people in religion, no religion and cults.
     
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    18 million out of 7 billion. Not too many really.
     
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  17. GroveRanger

    GroveRanger Well-Known Member

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    I might mock a religion that believes in space aliens from Uranus (*) and a bloke who read a golden book and talked into a hat but there are other equally mental things out there to worship.

    Shintoists have a day of worship for the penis. Hindu's worship everything from women with loads of arms to snakes and elephants. Jews and fundamentalist Christians believe in the fairy stories in the Old Testament and Druids worship trees.

    When taking a brief look at the origins of most religions there is something of the farcical about them My original question was for those of faith, do you ever sit there when being preached to and think "that doesn't make any sense" but opt to keep your opinions to yourself?

    Not that long ago it would have been heresy to even question such things but hopefully we are evolving into superior beings who no longer need the mysticism and voodoo mumbo jumbo to get through the day.
     
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  18. thefanwithnoname

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    No <ok>

    and those that 'believe' without questioning or understanding their faith/belief/religion are bigger far worse than what they think of unbelievers
     
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