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5m fee for Scocco

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  1. Teessidemackem

    Teessidemackem Well-Known Member

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    BRAZILIAN club Internacional are looking for a fee in excess of £5million for Sunderland target Nacho Scocco.

    Scocco is one of three Argentine players on Sunderland’s radar, with the Black Cats keeping tabs on both the winger and Catania goalkeeper Mariano Andujar, while they look to finalise a deal for centre-half Santiago Vergini.

    Sunderland made enquiries over Scocco’s availability during the summer, after he netted 30 times during 46 appearances in a loan spell at Argentine side Newell’s Old Boys, before he joined Internacional in a deal worth around £4m. But after a fall-out at the Brazilian outfit, Scocco is expected to be on the move again this month, with both the 28-year-old’s agent and his father confirming Sunderland’s interest.

    Sources close to Internacional have indicated that the club want to more than recoup their outlay on the one-time Argentine international though and are looking for a fee of more than £5m.

    Sunderland, who cannot sign any more players on loan, would be wary of splashing out such a hefty figure, with the club’s league position so precarious and their Premier League status in such significant jeopardy.

    But the Echo understands that Sunderland, who were yesterday linked with a move for Catania’s Argentinian striker Maxi Lopez, are working on adding to their attacking arsenal this month and have made headway with an overseas target.

    Internacional’s asking price has scuppered Scocco’s chances of moving to his homeland, either with River Plate or Newell’s Old Boys.

    But despite Scocco’s agent indicating interest from La Liga outfit Valencia, Sunderland are thought to be the only European club who have made a formal enquiry with Internacional.

    The deal for Vergini is far more advanced, with Sunderland hopeful of tying up the formalities of the £500,000 deal.

    Vergini will join fellow new-signing Marcos Alonso at the Stadium of Light once Sunderland have finalised the move for the 25-year-old.

    It is thought that Vergini needs to tie up the details of his contract at Argentine outfit Estudiantes before he can complete his switch to the Stadium of Light.

    Meanwhile, Brighton boss Oscar Garcia insists the Seagulls are keen to keep Liam Bridcutt at the club despite the midfielder submitting a transfer request last week.

    Bridcutt, who missed Saturday’s victory over Birmingham with a groin problem, asked to leave the Amex Stadium after Sunderland saw a bid of around £2million rejected for the 24-year-old.

    When asked whether Bridcutt would still be at the club at the end of the window, Garcia said: “I don’t think anybody can say that about any player, maybe Messi or Ronaldo, but all the other players have a price. But we want to keep him because he is one of our main players.”
     
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  2. C19RK73

    C19RK73 Red & White army!

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    Despite the fact that January is now more than two weeks old, Sunderland are yet to make any real moves of note in a notoriously difficult time to buy other than the recent addition of Fiorentina’s left-back Marcos Alonso on loan for the season.

    With that said there has been plenty of speculation on Wearside as to potential new recruits on Gus Poyet’s radar to strengthen his relegation threatened side in his first transfer window in charge.

    Jack Baldwin of Hartlepool United is reportedly being tracked by Sunderland’s scouting team with former skipper Paul Bracewell reportedly keeping tabs on the progress of the twenty year-old central defender who has drawn comparisons to Liverpool legend turned dour pundit, Alan Hansen. Any move for Baldwin would certainly be a transfer for the future in the club’s development squad rather than the current starting eleven.

    Potential signings which would have more of an immediate impact on the squad include the persistent Poyet transfer target which has been muted since his arrival, Liam Bridcutt.

    Having worked together at Brighton, the midfielder would instantly understand Poyet’s philosophy and style of play and would immediately slot into the starting eleven you feel such is the Uruguayan’s admiration of the Scottish international who has previously stated he would sign even if he was manager of Real Madrid.


    Bridcutt has recently handed a transfer request in and has failed to feature over the last few games for Brighton which seems to indicate that a move is imminent.

    Other names in the frame include Argentine forward Igancio Scocco, currently plying his trade in Brazil with Internacional where he has struggled to settle since arriving in June and has expressed his desire to move. While Scocco’s recent record isn’t particularly great, just three goals in seventeen, it is worth noting that he managed an incredible thirty-six goals in 2013.

    Any move for a forward would certainly add fuel to the fire which is the speculation surrounding Steven Fletcher’s future on Wearside. Fletcher has recently been a target of Celtic, Hull and even Tottenham Hotspur if you believe the conjecture, although I’d personally be surprised if Sunderland were to offload at present.

    One transfer which is a lot further along than the gossip stage is that of Estudiantes’ central defender Santiago Vergini. It is expected that the defender will join on a similar deal to that of Marcos Alonso, a loan deal with a view to a permanent transfer in the summer.

    To make it a hat-trick of Argentine signings, Sunderland are also reportedly interested in Catania goalkeeper Mariano Andujar to help bolster options between the sticks. This is certainly an area of concern currently with Vito Mannone as Poyet’s only available experienced goalkeeper as Keiren Westwood’s season looks to be over with a shoulder injury which may yet require surgery.

    There is also talk of making Ki’s loan a more permanent deal which would easily be the best business of the window for Sunderland if they were able to pull it off.
     
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  3. Cest Advocaat

    Cest Advocaat Well-Known Member

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    There are NO major transfer dealing anywhere in the EPL so far. I think we have our targets and if they can't be brought in then we won't be dealing.

    I want to see a new striker but just getting one for the sake of it isn't very clever. Gus wants Bridcutt and Buckley and Brighton are playing hard ball. We seem to be chasing this lad Scocco but it may not happen overnight.


    So long as Gus gets what he wants by 31st January we should be happy.
     
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  4. Billy Death

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    What's the problem?
    Let's just pay the ****ers the fee & get the lad in.
     
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  5. DAPARKERSAFC

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    If he can't settle in Brazil from Argentina how's he gonna cope with a move here I wonder?
     
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  6. flandersmackem

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    Don't dismiss the pulling power of Jackie Whites markets for the WAGS
     
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  7. Vincemac

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    By Tott Dixon - Seaham
    Updated Tuesday, 14th January 2014
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    Brazilian club Internacional are looking for a fee in excess of £5m for Sunderland target Nacho Scocco.
    Sunderland are keeping tabs on the winger and Catania goalkeeper Mariano Andujar. The club is also looking to finalise a deal for centre-half Santiago Vergini.
    Sunderland director of football Roberto De Fanti, made enquiries over Scocco’s availability last the summer before he joined Internacional in a £4m deal.
    Sources close to Internacional have indicated that the club want to more than recoup their outlay on the one-time Argentine international.
    Sunderland – who cannot sign any more players on loan – would be wary of splashing out such a hefty figure, with the club’s league position so precarious.
    The deal for Vergini is far more advanced, with Sunderland hopeful of tying up the formalities of the £500,000 deal. Vergini is still in Argentina, as he looks to reach a settlement with his club Estudiantes before finalising his switch.



    Expected something like this
     
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  8. Blunham Mackem

    Blunham Mackem Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    The biggest problem of signing anyone from outside the PL is obviously the length of time it will take to settle in. And we need new signings to hit the ground running. That's my concern for signing overseas players in this window, especially given our position this season.

    I don't see the point in signing him for signing's sake! I'd much rather we get someone with PL, not necessarily playing here at the minute.

    Having said that, we are getting more goals from our non-strikers at the minute, so if Fletch and Jozy can find their scoring boots there may be no need to get anyone in this window. I guess they've got 3 games to find them, otherwise we may be panic buying on the 30th/31st.

    Alonso and Johno have been a revelation out wide in the last 2 games, providing more service up-front but I still think we need another creative mid-fielder, just in case Ki takes a knock or goes back (that could still happen).
     
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  9. Aussie blackcat85

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    Agree with what your saying sandy although it being January how hard is it to get a proven PL striker/attacking midfielder? I believe sometimes you need to look outside the box and if scocco is outside scratching to get in then let's have a crack. We have nothing to lose & everything to gain! Loving our ambitious displays ATM so let's follow through with it in the TFW! Just saying.
     
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  10. Brian Storm

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    I don't think they'll get a penny over 3.5m
     
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  11. Blunham Mackem

    Blunham Mackem Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    We have to be mindful of just how much ES has forked out already Aussie. I think that's one of the reasons for his perceived reluctance to splash out again (I'm just going on press and comments made here to be honest). If Gus brings in another dud striker it's just gonna stretch his patience further.

    He'll also want to unload some of the team this window and we don't seem to have clubs rushing our doors. He may take a 1 out - 1 in policy. Again, just speculating.

    Another thing to consider is that our results are improving and he may wait on the results of the next couple of games before making any decisions to splash the cash. If he's got a Wembley final booked and we're outside the bottom 3 by next Wednesday night, he may think he doesn't need to spend at all. Gus could be a victim of his own short success!
     
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  12. C19RK73

    C19RK73 Red & White army!

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    8 minutes ago

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    Marcelo Medeiros (Vice President of Internacional) on Scocco: He can leave permanently or on loan.

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    Medeiros: If by the latter, the club who wants him will have to pay the player's salary in full and pay us for the loan.

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    Internacional say Nacho Scocco can leave on loan, as long the club who wants him pays his wages and a loan fee. http://bit.ly/1kC56iE
     
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  13. Calamty Jane

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    Whoever you go for will be good by us.After he fails with you Uncle Steve will turn him into a gem-again!!!!!!
     
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  14. Poyet's Eleven

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    You're not suggesting Elmo, Meyler or Graham are gems are you?!
     
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  15. Brian Storm

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    Yeah mate, didn't you know they've established Hull 6 points off bottom? ****ing world beaters now mate <laugh>
     
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  16. Poyet's Eleven

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    <laugh> No chance they'll go down with two goal scorers Graham and Jelavic in their team
     
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  17. C19RK73

    C19RK73 Red & White army!

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    Destination: Tyne and Wear, England. The father Ignacio Scocco put the player as possible contracted Sunderland. A return to Newell's Old Boys of Argentina is also possible, and return to their homeland to work for River Plate. But the fate of the International striker is still uncertain. The entrepreneur athlete is defining the future of Scocco. However, the Brazilian market would be good for the Argentine? With three goals in the Brasileirão, he would need to play in the Libertadores to hold in big clubs.

    In 17 matches in the national championship last year, little did Scocco. He did not reach a correct average completion by starting or correct feint. The numbers do not differ much from Leandro Damiao, criticized by fans, who scored five goals in 26 matches before moving to Santos.

    That said, it would change little in Corinthians, Coritiba, Grêmio, Palmeiras and São Paulo in case of an eventual exchange of domestic staff. Alexandre Pato finished the year with 50% success in submissions, needed 3.4 kicks to score a goal, and in comparison, was the attacker dribbled over. Deivid excelled in efficiency because no two submissions required to balance the network. Despite the "bad" statistics boats had more than Scocco season, and Luis Fabiano. Alan Kardec, in Serie B, received many fouls and finished quite the goal.

    At Radio Gaucha , earlier in the week, the vice president of the International Football, Marcelo Medeiros, said Scocco was not motivated in Colorado. By the numbers, there's a good time. The player was hired by the great Libertadores we did. In the Brasileirão, it decreased their numbers in all major fundamentals: dribbling, finishing, fouls received, and even assists.

    Acting as a false 9 at Newell's Old Boys Gerardo Martino, the Libertadores Scocco, yes, would own all of the above clubs. Although lacking the hunger for goals, the attacker would be a great investment for Timon, Thigh, Gremio, Palmeiras and São Paulo. In the first half of 2013, Scocco did everything better than duck boats, Deivid, Alan Kardec and Luis Fabiano.

    http://www.footstats.net/noticias/2...r-em-grandes-clubes-do-brasil-o-do-inter-nao/
     
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  18. Brian Storm

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    We need to play this right. They need shot him desperately by the sound of it. They're asking too much, trying to take advantage. But if we're offering too little, when they have no choice to accept a bid, Old Boys may be able to afford it. Surly we can outbid NOB and the others without caving in to 6m?
     
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  19. C19RK73

    C19RK73 Red & White army!

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    i think if the snippet from the 1 argentinian thread is anything to go on, they have 48hrs to do their business on this one
     
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  20. Brian Storm

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    I think we're the only ones who can match the 3.6m they paid for him and I think that's how much we'll get him for.
     
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