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Discussion in 'Newcastle United' started by Albert's Chip Shop, Dec 9, 2016.

  1. Albert's Chip Shop

    Albert's Chip Shop Top Grafter Forum Moderator

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    Been seeing a lot of championship fans on Twitter pedalling the 'Newcastle have bought the league', ''Newcastle shouldn't have received the parachute payments', 'there are FFP issues' etc etc

    It's funny that there is so much beel and hate about for us. We've been the sole cause of most of the Championship teams selling out for the first time this season and probably brough tens of thousands of pounds in revenue to the local community.

    The beelers forget we made a profit in the Summer on player trading too.

    Interesting today to hear from the BBC that our biggest rivals have just posted debt of £25m... more than their turnover last year....

    http://www.insidermedia.com/insider/southeast/brighton-hove-albion-pre-tax-losses-top-25m
     
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  2. Obi Wan

    Obi Wan keeper of the peace Forum Moderator

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    Our profits came from selling Sissoko, Janmaat, Gini, Cisse, Townsend, etc, plus saving on wages from the likes of Colo & Saylor. The amount we've spent is nothing on that lot.
     
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  3. General Lee Speaking

    General Lee Speaking Well-Known Member

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    Did any other clubs in the division not spend ANY money in the summer transfer window? What about Aston Villa and Norwich? Are they buying the league with their parachute payments?

    Frankly, I couldn't give a ****e what other fans think.
     
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  4. Captainchaos.

    Captainchaos. Well-Known Member

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    Are they implying that football is all about money ???
     
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  5. JakartaToon

    JakartaToon Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    No problem with discontinuing parachute payments but it will mean a lot of players going on to contracts with a heap of relegation clauses specified by the clubs. While the parachute payments are in place would rather see them spent on the club than going into Mike's pocket.
     
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  6. leez

    leez Well-Known Member

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    yes there is a lot of nufc haters ..including the man in the middle ...they just jealous of our unique club and colours and support .....im loving it
     
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  7. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    **** them, Chaos hit the nail on the head. Daft ****s.
     
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  8. Rum & Black for 2

    Rum & Black for 2 Champion’s League Prediction League Champion Forum Moderator

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  9. Albert's Chip Shop

    Albert's Chip Shop Top Grafter Forum Moderator

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    From memory don't Brighton normally implode after Xmas??
     
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  10. Beardsley's Stylist

    Beardsley's Stylist Well-Known Member

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    Not sure they imploded as they only missed out on automatic promotion on goal difference and it wasn't as if they were miles ahead at Christmas
     
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  11. Albert's Chip Shop

    Albert's Chip Shop Top Grafter Forum Moderator

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    I have a feeling Leeds will really give Brighton a run for their money in thr second half of the season.
     
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  12. Charlie Dogscock

    Charlie Dogscock Well-Known Member

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    You seem to have confused Brighton with Arsenal...

    Don't get why we're getting flack for spending much less than we received in transfer fees, and Villa who spent more than us are hardly getting any...oh yeah it's cos Villa have spent a fortune on **** and are mid table whereas we bought good players that make us win games, how dare we.
     
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  13. Sammy's Silky Skills

    Sammy's Silky Skills Well-Known Member

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    They are just bitter twats.
     
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  14. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    You seem to have after Xmas confused with November. Which is traditionally when they concede so much ground they never make it up. Strangely that hasn't happened. December and January are usually none too clever also. I think they may have something in common...
     
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  15. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid Forum Moderator

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    2 words. Parachute Payments.

    I'll prob get slaughtered on here and it's certainly not aimed at your guys or as a bias towards why Brighton operated at a loss last year, but Parachute Payments make FFP in the Championship crazy for anyone that's not come down.

    You guys obv have huge stadium and big fan base so make a lot of money form that, but most of your money will come from the parachute payments... payments for being unsuccessful. You finished 6 places higher than Brighton last year yet in prize money you probably got about £100m more?

    On top of that you sold players to teams above you and didn't manage to hold onto them like Brighton did (cough selling club cough) <whistle>

    But in all seriousness, like Tony Bloom said, anyone trying to be competitive in the Championship on a regular basis that doesn't have Parachute Payments is always going to operate at a loss because they have to invest in the squad, and the money received from TV just can't stack up. Trying to compete with Newcastle, Norwich, Villa, Fulham, QPR, Wolves, who have all received money for being relegated (on top of all other money they would usually earn) is going to be hard and like FFP in Europe, it's main task was to make sure big clubs continue to be big clubs. The payment is just to stop what happened to Pompey happen to others, where go down, can't afford the same contracts and go into even more trouble. Problem is, that's not teaching clubs to be sensible, just offering them an easy out.
     
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  16. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid Forum Moderator

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    Btw, I've not said you're trying to buy the league, you sold a few decent players and replaced them with proven Champ quality (and prem quality in Gayle & Ritchie). But the only teams that could afford to spend £20m on 2 players and offer them the wages to come, are the ones that got relegated and still earning 75% Prem money.

    You guys did well, but were obviously helped by Spurs spunking away £30m on Sissoko (which is starting to look funnier than us buying Carroll for £35m!). It's like when United claimed they made a X profit one year... but that profit came from selling Ronaldo for £80m. Player sales is always a risky one to use when looking at profit/loss as it's not guaranteed income.
     
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  17. Albert's Chip Shop

    Albert's Chip Shop Top Grafter Forum Moderator

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  18. General Lee Speaking

    General Lee Speaking Well-Known Member

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    Parachute payments are a sensible way of helping to prevent clubs going to the wall. I see no problem with it.
     
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  19. Albert's Chip Shop

    Albert's Chip Shop Top Grafter Forum Moderator

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    Player purchases are more risky for you boys where we are concerned mate :angel:
     
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  20. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid Forum Moderator

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    Give a man to fish he'll eat for a day, teach a man to fish, he can feed him and his family <ok>

    Good management should be the way to stop that, not just throwing money at clubs for failing.
     
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