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The EU debate - Part III

Discussion in 'The Premier League' started by Jürgenmeiʃter, Sep 6, 2016.

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  1. paultheplug

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    Pete will be the new John Connor and single-handedly defeat these robots that threaten his way of life. Imagine robot accountants that don't need kitchens!
     
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  4. Star of David Bardsley

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    I'm quite surprised you work at all. Given you spend large chunks of your week in such a multicultural city, your fear of a brown face moving to the village is even more ridiculous.
     
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    You're making a different point to the one I was making.
    I understand technology in the workplace and have been part of it for the last 25 years.
    The story was sensationalist because it mentioned 15m job losses. That was the same claim in the 80's. What it doesn't mention is that a large percentage of these displaced jobs will be replaced by other forms of employment as people adapt.
     
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    Can't say I really care about the numbers. Usually someone says upto x and the press translate as x to sensationalise.
     
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    But it was you who made the comment "I can't really dispute any of this" and " it's not really sensationalist", then went on to tell me how automation has wiped out jobs.
    All I commented on was that I heard the same stories back in the 80's, similar employment numbers were used and whilst technology has changed the employment landscape, employment has never been higher.
     
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    Do you share your views on how you'd not live in anything other than a white anglo saxon area, with the non whites that you no doubt work with?

    You closet racist **** house
     
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    All the time, how is your blood pressure today, it seems a little high to me,you need to chill out a bit.
     
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    Another question you've swerved....

    I knew the answer anyway in fairness ;)
     
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    I beleive the point being made by Carney to be true, that it wasnt sensationalist and that technology is in the process of replacing many everyday jobs and that we will have to change how society works. As I said before, we always overestimate the speed of technology but that doesn't mean change isn't happening. I firmly believe the automation of transport is the tipping point that will bring those challenges.

    What I don't buy into is the press interpretation.
     
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    If the rumours about her 3 line Bill re: Article 50 are correct (and I suspect they are) then she'll fully deserve to be voted down by bringing that to the House, as she'd be taking the piss.

    It all comes back to the same thing, they haven't got a coherent plan, they're flip flopping all over the place, and therefore don't want the scrutiny that'll expose that simple fact. This is why they're fighting the court case.
     
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  13. pieguts

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    So which bit of the healine was written to catch the eye of the reader?
    The bit around technology and automation, which has been steadily increasing over the last 30 years or the fact that 15m jobs could be displaced.
    I'll give you a clue...it wasn't technology.
    That's why I claimed that these sensationalist headlines have been made before, in respect of people being displaced.
    All the time profit comes before any social responsibility, technology will continue to move forward at a fast pace. Only when the technology costs more than the profits it's expected to generate, will the tide turn.
    As for automation of transport, I believe the technology exists. What we don't have is the infrastructure to support the roll out of this technology. Somehow fully autonomous transport and "pot holes" don't mix!!
     
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    We are talking at cross purposes. All press use sensationalist headlines so I take that as a given. The underlying story is not.

    Automated transport has already been rolled out in Greenwich with the GATEway project and will spread over time. From the other direction, automated features are appearing in private cars ( mine parks/unparks itself, has adaptive cruise control and collision avoidance warnings ).
    I expect to see autonomous only areas appear in city centres and autonomous only lanes on motorways as the tech evolves, leading to a change in road furniture over time.
     
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    Fully automated transport systems have been around for years, unfortunately it still requires a level of infrastructure investment for this happen. That's why, I believe I will never see the widespread type of technology you are talking of, in my lifetime (in the U.K.). We simply don't have the funding or space to do it. We barely keep on top of necessary infrastructure improvements (rail and road).
    The automated features that you have in your car are described as driver aids. This technology will continue to grow as it becomes more affordable. It wasn't that many years ago when a radio was considered an optional extra!
     
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    Why have a referendum if parliament was supposed to make the decision?
     
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    5 months on and you're still struggling with the basics <laugh>
     
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    So we can take the piss out of Sad Stan on a daily basis <ok>
     
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    Possibly <laugh>

    Or to out the forum simpleton as the forum racist? Custard becomes Kustard :azn:
     
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    You are correct that those driver aids are the forerunners of full automation in the same way extras in cars have evolved.
    Autonomous vehicles require less infrastructure than a conventionally driven car so this is something we disagree on. They require no road signs, roundabouts,traffic lights and can safety be driven much closer together so need less lanes to operate in. The problem is how they could operate with non autonomous vehicles. That is why I beleive the tech currently in the Tesla and being developed by others will gradually be built into all cars to the point where it will be mandatory to have it on in certain locations, it's not hard to see where that leads.
     
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