The EU debate - Part III

Yes, but I was replying in kind to Custard in the context of "forum nobodies". It wasn't a serious comment.

 

I'm leaving this thread.

I feel like I've become part of some weird love triangle.

Laters.

 

You're a regular Freddie Krueger mate.

Not to mention being the Oscar Wilde of stupid.

 

Better than being a cupcake

 

I find the xenophobic underclass quite intriguing. What does one have to do to be labelled a cupcake? It's quite a bizarre insult.

 

Of course you do, you think you're better than them.

 

I'm not thick enough to blindly hate based on nothing so, yes, I am.

 

That's how you perceive it to be, hence your intrigue. Perhaps if you actually understood the society you lived in you would sympathise more with their worries.

 

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What's there to understand? Feel free to educate me (show yourself up).

I can live and work among my own minority and people not in that minority. Some people find the thought of a guy with dark skin moving in next door horrifying.

 

And who doesn't like a cupcake with a cup of coffee every now and then? Probably people who think Yorkshire Tea actually comes from Yorkshire, and any deviation from McVitie's biscuits is a bit suspect.

 

There's probably a correlation between xenophobia and cups of tea consumed per day.

 

The very people who you continuously lambaste as being 'racist' and 'xenophobic' are quite often the people who have fallen victim to the problem of mass immigration. It is a natural reaction to dislike what has wronged you and to see your familiar surroundings with significant historical precedence change so much in a short space of time. You don't seem to understand this, so all you do is sneer and exclaim from your podium about how uneducated or intolerant those people are, it was people like you who caused them to be this way.

 

Like I said, showing yourself up.

What do you mean by people like me?

A lot of the most racist and xenophobic in society are those who don't have contact with other races or nationalities. That is just stupidity and intolerance based on nothing.

 

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Wrong, as usual, pal.

Those type of people need somebody to blame for their own sad lives. It can't possibly their fault that they're not rich, or successful, so they look for a scapegoat. Conveniently, there seem to be some people of a darker persuasion living nearby, so it must be their fault that life is so ****...!

Perhaps they ought to look elsewhere. Starting with the mirror!...

 

To some extent I think I do understand your fears. You think your culture and way of life is under threat - which it is, but not from immigrants. The world is changing fast, and white working class communities in the the UK and USA - and France, for example - are being left behind. Add to that, a world wide recession that replaces well paid jobs in manufacturing with low payed, de-unionised jobs in the service sector, and there's a lot of angry people about. Unless mainstream politicians grasp that, the conditions in which extremism can thrive will continue to be created. But how can mainstream politics address the problem when both Labour and the Tories are part of the problem in the first place?

I agree it's a problem, and one the Labour Party in it's current predicament doesn't look up to solving. On the other hand, there are a lot of thick ****ing racists in Britain, always have been, and now they have a voice. They should be told to shut the **** up. It's not immigrants who ****ed you over, it's unrestrained capitalism of the sort Margaret Thatcher opened the door to. Incidentally, when she did that, lots of people cheered as they bought their council houses and shares in British Gas. Now there's no ****ing council houses and all our public services are ripping us off for profit, let's blame the immigrants shall we? Well you know what, when you start with the racist crap, how about bollocks?

 

Wow! That's intelligent.,..

So, using your logic, if a load of people in the U.K. all started holding rallies, marching with banners saying 'Corbyn is a communist ****' then the electorate would all immediately do the opposite and vote for him? .

Did they check you for the presence of a brain when you were born?

 

Labour needs to get back to what it was supposed to be, but without coming across as a bunch of communists.
A lot of industries could do with sensible, decent unions and the concerns of normal working people need to be addressed.

The problem is that the media simply won't back anyone pushing for reforms.
How do you deal with something like that, especially when you're not in power?