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My fights with Ehab Allam - Steve Bruce on why he left Hull City

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  1. Walter Sobchak

    Walter Sobchak Well-Known Member

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    I have no idea how that comment is in response to mine.
     
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  2. originallambrettaman

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    Steve Bruce's spending in one year, wasn't far off the amount all the others had to spend over the previous 99 years, it's all relative.

    I didn't get bored with a few draws, I got bored with setting up negatively in too many games (even in the Championship where we had the most expensive and talented squad in the league) and we didn't draw against ****e like Leeds, Rotherham and Preston, we lost.

    I'll always be grateful to our most successful manager, but it doesn't stop me from also being able to see his shortcomings.
     
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  3. Party Hull!

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    Unsurprising comments, of course he's not going to go into the specifics of the disagreements (not until he's retired anyway and it's time for the memoir).

    Basically, he was happy until Ehab. Then Ehab failed to replace him after forcing him out. Now we are where we are.

    Know your enemy.
     
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  4. Trumpton Tiger.

    Trumpton Tiger. Well-Known Member

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    Think a bit harder then.
     
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  5. Walter Sobchak

    Walter Sobchak Well-Known Member

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    I said Bruce threw away our european chance. Which he did. The club didn't give it any importance to focus on the league instead - and we got relegated. I think most supporters would rather have had a few good away ties but nevermind.

    You made some comment about not being in europe years a go. If anything it backs up my point that Bruce should have given it some importance and not pissed it up the wall.
     
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  6. AlRawdah

    AlRawdah Well-Known Member

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    This is a strange argument given that Bruce ended up agreeing with the Bruce Out types on here.
     
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  7. Trumpton Tiger.

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    It isn't relative at all. You could say that all the money spent over the other 99 years was wasted because it never saw us get promoted to the First Division which was always the dream. Of course Bruce has shortcomings, but you take the good with the bad, rough with the smooth, you don't win them all and so on....
    When we were relegated under Bruce to the Championship ( on the back of Leicester's miraculous recovery, under a previous manager of Hull City who was also not exactly Mister Popular with our fans) clubs like Leeds ( who we lived under the shadow of for a couple of generations) Rotherham and Preston probably saw us a big scalp which makes a change because I've been watching the last two beat us home and away on a regular basis all my life. Also didn't Steve Bruce take us up into the Premier League last season despite having the audacity to lose away from home against three teams in the same division as us ?
     
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  8. Trumpton Tiger.

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    I was as frustrated as anyone walking out of Lokeren's ground dodging the bottles and bricks thrown at me and my family and I too thought we threw a golden opportunity away. But I was grateful to have seen my club actually play in Europe and I honestly thought we would go on to see more of games like that, if we had of kept Bruce and built on what we had achieved under him. We'd never had a sniff of any European action before him and it could be a long long time before we see any more.
    I agree it was an opportunity thrown away and not one of Bruce's better decisions, if anything he under estimated the strength of the opposition.
     
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  9. Edelman

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    And Relax chaps
     
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  10. Newland Tiger

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    So , Ehab
     
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  11. originallambrettaman

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    My point was just that your 'ridiculed' statement was an inaccurate exaggeration, only a tiny amount of people ridiculed him, the vast majority were exceptionally grateful to him for what he'd achieved and respected him, regardless of whether they wanted him to stay or go.
     
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  12. Walter Sobchak

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    Are relax ones the same as assless ones?
     
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  13. John Ex Aberdeen now E.R.

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    IMO Bruce was a manager probably better than we could have expected at the time. His philosophy was very defensive as that is his mind set and his experience, and we just had to accept that, even though at times it was frustrating. At the end of the day in his way he got the job done, and for that we need to be thankful.

    During his time he tried his best to play the moderator between fans and the owners, but in the end it got too much for him, which in essence says that he was on the fans side, and was tired of trying to vindicate the Allams actions. In addition Ehab didn't want to invest in the squad to make us bigger and better.
     
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  14. Gone For A Walk

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    Not really. I went back to what the question was about in the first place, not off on some tangent!
    Yes, I wanted Bruce to go.
    Yes, he was ace ... but then he was ****. Bit like Brownio, but having spunked way more money.
    To be honest, and as stated previously, I actually wanted him to stay at the very end, but only because the club desperately needed some stability, and someone to be honest enough (back to the original topic) to stand up to the Allams. But no, he walked out (understandably so to be fair), and still isn't telling anything beyond the bleedin obvious that we don't already know about what was going on.
    Anyway, back to the topic. Where is he being honest, cause I sure as hell can't see it in that article?
     
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  15. Barchullona

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    Bruce realised that Ehab's ideas would **** the club up and were unworkable.
     
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  16. Charon

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    The only reasons we got promoted last season are

    1. Brighton ****ed up their first leg of the play offs
    2 Derby ****ed up their first leg of the play offs

    and the main reason

    3. Junior was injured most of the season
     
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  17. Trumpton Tiger.

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    I don't accept the 'tiny amount'. I wish it was. Trawl back through your pages for proof. RH was inundated with calls for him to be sacked every time we failed to win.
    I hope a vast majority were grateful because we might not ever see anything like it again. A man who achieved for this club what Bruce did, and Brown, should be in a hall of fame somewhere inside the stadium not questioned and doubted. SB wasn't the perfect manager by a long chalk and if he were I doubt if he would have been interested in managing us but my point and always will be that he achieved what was considered unachievable at this club. AA junior never saw it like that either.
     
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  18. Trumpton Tiger.

    Trumpton Tiger. Well-Known Member

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    I think a big factor we went up was how we performed over the length of the season and by winning the Final at Wembley.
     
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  19. Barchullona

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    Don't forget Wednesday ****ing up the final. Lucky bastards, weren't we? Following over a hundred years of only bad luck holding us back.
     
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  20. City Man

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    But we didn't win every single game, and lost to teams below us in the table.

    Clearly, he needs to be told what mistakes he makes by the Online Football Management Think Tank.

    Just out of interest, could someone post up the managers better than Steve Bruce that we've had in 112 years ?

    Ta
     
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