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Transfer Rumours Sunderland manager David Moyes admits Jordan Pickford could leave in January.

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  1. Brian Storm

    Brian Storm Well-Known Member

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    My dad is scattered round the pitch on the Roker turf. It's a good job I don't believe in an afterlife or I'd be horrified at the limbo he'd be suspended in now <laugh>
     
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    We have a long history, loyal support, and a real camaraderie, mostly based on adversity, but identity I'm not sure, but await with hope that a positive one will emerge. Nil Desperandum
     
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  3. Brian Storm

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    It's an identity most clubs share, the iditity of football which draws you in as a child, where the young fans who want to grow up to play for their club, a dream all young lads have for their football club. But now knowing that even if you do make the grade that your dream can remain unfulfilled because, all for the price on your head you've developed due to the man in charge plunging the club into debt, the very thing that drew you to your club of choice as a child. Selling Pickford would be the death of football to me. Short will have completely killed the last bit of childlike innocence the game has left for me. Having a kid who dreams of stepping on toes ands heads to get the best wage and best club to be a famous footballer rather than the romance of representing the club you love regardless of it's level. Makes my skin crawl. Short will represent everything i hate about what football has become.

    The man would be vile to do this. Sanctioning the sale of Pickford would punish the club and the sport for his mistakes and kills the whole ****ing sport dead for me. I want him gone from the club while we can still restore the British traditions and ideals that has inspired generations in what is probably last remaining pure innocence left in the game. Otherwise it will have to be me who turns my back on the club.

    I follow Pickford on twitter, his account goes back to him being a kid. That lad will be heartborken at being sold 6 months after breaking the team and realising the ultimate footballing dream. It would be robbing the lad. Hope he resists all the bollocks he's going get about it being best for the club, I don't doubt they'll try and manipulate his emotions to get him to agree to a move.
     
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    I thought about that and I hope his demands are about £1 million a week tax free just to f*ck Ellis off and he stays.
     
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  5. Brian Storm

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    He won't want to go mate, not yet. I've seen how much he loves us. He'd be happy being our number 1 in the championship at this stage in his career, it won't harm his career either he's so young. I hope he turns down every contract he offers. But to add to the club playing on his emotions one shoulder, he'll have an agent on his other shoulder doing exactly the same.

    One thing though, the lad is a chav with limited intelligence. I feel he'll be easily manipulated. Just hope his raw love for the club and family around him reminding him of that is enough.
     
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    Completely agree with you mate, I've very little love for football left, it's corruption and money off the pitch and professional cheats on the pitch.

    If we can keep Pickford because we don't try to flog him for a quick buck and he wants to stay at the team he loves then that would give me a bit of hope. If not...
     
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    In IDIOMS, CLICHES, AND SLANG, STATISTICS, URBAN SLANG

    What does 'chav' mean?
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    chav (n. and adj.) - vulgar, uneducated, brash.

    Chav is a term used towards someone who wears a particular fashion and acts a certain way. The usual 'design' of a chav is traksuit bottoms and hoodie. The often swear and will smoke and take anything they can afford. Chav comes from the phrase Council House And Violence. The use phrases such as "innit bruv" and "yeaa mate". Many people exclude chavs from their society and some even fear them.
     
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  9. Disco down under

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    I'm fine with Pickford going if the deal suits the club and the lad.

    We can't keep him forever if he keeps progressing the way he is currently and decodes he wants to leave.

    The issue is how do we reinvest... Southampton know how to do it. If we can do it like that I've no problem with it at all.

    If we sell him for X. Buy Mignolet back for 30% of X and then reinvest no further we'll be ****ed.
     
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  10. marcusblackcat

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    We don't need to invest - ask the press (and some of our fans!), the only reason we're down the bottom is because we didn't sign M'Vila and he's on a free.....

    I agree with you BTW! Would have no qualms about signing Mignolet back from Liverpool - but very few clubs can spend money without selling the debt we're in has come about because of spiralling wages and agent fees etc. (Managerial merry go round wouldn't have helped either!) - Not sure how precisely Palace managed their investment but they're probably in as much debt as us after this season due to it and their apparent failings on the pitch!

    Most clubs near our table position will have to spend in January - we have a massive asset who, if he brings in £30m, will be a good piece of business - maybe not best for the player but certainly best for SAFC
     
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    30m for Pickford and then having to spend 10m on Mig when we already have Vito at the club is a backward step and very poor business to suit.
    I also think M'Vila is a lost cause as far as we are concerned and I find it very hard to forgive whoever was responsible. Our debt is a result of continually paying over the odds and selling cheap, our worse still having to pay clubs to take some of the deadwood off the books, SAFC is a prime example of how not to run a business. Doing less in the market and more on the training ground might work in our favour.
     
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  12. Brian Storm

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    Mig? He's ****ing ****e. We had LIverpool's pants down. If Pickford goes we already own a good keeper. Vito was fine for everyone a few month ago. And still is.
     
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    Sell for £2.3m and replace with Mark Bosnich for £13m
     
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    Are you from the future?
     
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    We don't need mig if we sell we have mannone and Mika as back up we are ok in the gk department..

    Don't want to sell him ofcourse but if we have to we have to nothing we can do about it..
     
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  16. Brian Storm

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    Love how 'acceptable' this is to some. Short's mess and it costs us our future? But needs must. It's not like the chairman can put his in his own pocket to clean up his own mess, yeah sell our future before it's fully developed. need must eh?
     
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    Just saying it's not the end of the world. Want Pickford to stay for a good few years but nothing I can do about it..

    Don't actually think he will be sold anyway TBH..
     
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  18. Brian Storm

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    My faith in the club is stretched to the limit with Short at the helm. If he starts selling our talent too early that's it for me. I know we won't hold on to him for long but a few years can give us a chance to finish what we started and get optimum value for him. Sell him now and we just won't.
     
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    He will tipping waiters when his gut is full and to make an impression to the local press and to the gullible..

    We shared our views on Short 2 or 3 years ago, maybe even longer than that, the man is to football to what I am to Baseball, he has zero interest in the club, the fans, the whole package. Bringing new DOF's in or whatever they are called will never appease an investment, which is either last minute or rushed on players that reeks of desperation or by a man that has his people in place but has the final say when money is released, thus rendering them useless.

    People say, be careful what you wish for, I do wish Quinn had thought of that at the first hole on the golf course that morning..<ok>
     
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  20. Brian Storm

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    Well said mate.
     
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