Of course I don't I have no idea who you are But to react as you have with insults over a news story and a joke that was inside plenty of minds believe me just shows how trapped you maybe
Mate people laugh and joke every minute over a lot worst I made light of this because I am sick of where the whole story will take us all and nothing will be done about abuse taking place now The story is designed to shock and people now eat it like it's nourishment
I came close to crying while watching this. I'm sure that over the decades there have been hundreds & possibly thousands that have suffered this at football & all other sports/passtimes. As was stated in the interview, the problem with all the test now is that they won't find anything wrong with a person unless they have a conviction. No, I have no idea how you can test more! My admiration for ALL sufferers of childhood abusewho have the courace to come forward is unlimited. My support for ALL sufferers is also unlimited. I have a friend who was abused by her grandfather when she was a child. This had an awful affect on her life that will be with her every day that she is alive. Thankfully, in the last few years she has started to believe that she is not a worthless person who deserves to be abused (sexually, physically & mentally). However, that has taken her over 40 years!
Warning this thread contains scenes or thoughts of a sexual nature Dealing with that is the challenge of life
What do you suggest we do about it? Young lads aged 9-14 being buggered by adults and you choose to take your rage out on your fellow members of our board. Nice one DT.
Because it's a problem far bigger than football in fact I am willing to wager more lads outside football suffer this dreadful act than this story that tarnishes football coaching It spotlights a snapshot in football and more suffering will take place tomorrow yet the focus is now on one case that has happened ... it makes me very cross that no one even mentions this age old problem until it's connected to bloody football Shocking stuff and all everyone is doing here it giving it oxygen and the English way is to now start a witch hunt not giving any thought to the majority of good people who coach youth players ... they are now tarred with a brush . People want it as worse as they can make it just to satisfy their own disgust This is a mini news channel on here and deserves frank comments to give balance and reality Look at the poxy RIP thread full of smart comments about people who have died ... it's really about posters trying to own the news People die and are only talked when they do Life is harsh in 2016 and it's only about empty ifs so my answer would be if I witnessed the crimes mentioned I would certainly act These stories are never balanced IMO and only cause damage it's laughable This is about people not being realistic To see Paul Stewart say he was buggered daily for years I can't believe that not one person comes out until now ... not one man being a man and fighting it ... it's a joke that people are swallowing it all then living their lives ignoring the sex slave kids in London Of course I'm cross about it
Bloody hell Paul, I think we've travelled this road before. Okay, I think I understand where you're coming from, but as we're in the here and now I think it's best to leave it as 'On topic.' I'm off to bed now and I'll try to decipher your multi-faceted angles and answer them whilst compiling the matchday thread. That will have to wait until tomorrow. Good night.
This sort of thing has been going on for years in any organisation that has direct access to kids. Youth clubs, Scouts, school clubs give such perverts the opportunity and you'd be naive to think it is one or two isolated incidents. The difference in this era is that it is much more open in reporting and dealing with such people but I am sure there are still such things happening regularly today because they are very clever and manipulative people. I was targeted by one when I was about 10 years old but luckily never fell for his patter, I'm sure many did...
I get extremely emotive over this topic because of my own personal story ... laugh or cry I choose laugh every time as sorrow is giving in To steal any innocent from another human is a straight death penalty for me ... yet in this country it will take discussion and soft people will say perverts need treatment No they ****ing don't it's inside the animal so pouncing around yet another sensationalism without any action is in itself a sin IMO The damage these stories do long term to the innocent is the real erosion and now one cares until the news breaks then all it is for a few weeks is a hot topic It's the UK way to taboo and bury I choose pure joy and laughter at times to fight off these dark times From the Romans to Roger the cabin boy humanity is guilty Look at how this has stuck to private schools and routes to the top of power. I am always hearing expressions like Tory bum boys etc They are labelled Does anyone on here think that abuse does not go now? What government allows this to happen and what people allow this Of course it must be joked about because the other way means it's just absorbed into the soul and hidden ... look at the amount of people who come out of the darkness when they release They are fulfilled with light hearts They are light hearted again Without entrapment Burying feelings and just being disgusted is not enough in fact long term it aids the dark This is why I am certain I am not a Moron ... when you are given light spread it at every opportunity No I am not God squad The news and the media are **** whippers IMO designed to shock and then stand back and do nothing at all Telling tales and exposure for what purpose ... when do you hear of a journo finding out facts and then beating the **** out of the guilty? That's where I would be and it would make a bigger story but with a cleaner undertow What a ****ing sick world It's great
Similar event for me Only way to expose is with light Get these people out I would geniuelly laugh my tits off watching a proven sex pervert die in a nasty way
The bloke who taught me to swim in cold, early morning lessons at Kingston Baths before school was a homosexual ****phile. I was about seven or eight. He used to come into the Baths on a Saturday afternoon and chuck the boys about the pool. Of course, they all loved it. Every now and then, he'd pull one onto his lap and fiddle with them. Later, there were darker stories about his antics and he got sacked from several schools. The strange thing is that, in my innocence, I always liked him, he seemed kind and was a terrific swimming teacher. I can't work out in my own mind now, if he was a basically genuine man with a severe sexual problem that, criminally, he gave in to. Or a subversive monster that simply pretended to be kind in order to use this as a cover for his abuse.
I was going to put a like to this Goldhawk, but then decided it is not really a subject matter to be liked. That is a hell of a question you ask! And one that I suspect many an abused person (not just child) ask themselves, without many ever knowing the answer. Also another reason why some abusers will go undetected as we are too bloody good at times of giving the benefit of doubt.
Agree with Windom that the media will make us all both heartily sick and somehow anaesthetised about this stuff. Historical sexual abuse now seems to be a growth industry here.
For that sake of our future, let's hope that never happens. The perpetrators of these crimes MUST be found out and punished accordingly.
I agree, Terry. Facts change in every case of course, but there is always the common theme of dishonesty and subversive behaviour against a child. As Sooper has said (above), it has always existed. I can't judge whether it was worse in the 1960's and 1970's because of the sexual attitude of tolerance and "let it all hang out" (there was after all, a ****phile political pressure group at that time, demanding ****philes' human rights to have sex with children - terrifying) or whether the internet has made the whole problem worse. One thing I'm sure of is that those footballers that appeared on TV last week are genuine, and their lives have been adversely affected, and far greater checks need to take place in football coaching, as increasingly they are in other areas of activities involving kids.
The only part solution I can come up with (apart from necessarily treating everyone that works with kids as a *****phile) would be to offer treatment to negate their urges. With the media reaction and the very tragic revelations of the victims, anyone feeling these wrong urges would be forced into a solitary state of festering and feeling outcast. That wouldn't end well most probably. Allowing people who feel this way to get treatment (perhaps psychiatry and the medication used in the 50s and 60s on homosexuals - very wrong there but possibly more justified with potential victims lives at stake) would work and would be taken up in at least some cases. Probably flawed but it just seems very frustratingly reactive to wait until someone has been caught before they can be picked up by checks to stop them taking up jobs after already traumatising others.
Gold is great for this share and I very much doubt if any of us would open up so credit to this forum It's a age old sickness that has been around since civilisation No excuse for it to happen and then be fashionably sensationalised by the media before a better story comes out and then forgotten If you can laugh then all well and good ... that does not mean in any way that you trivialise the gravity of this evil ... it means you can be above it all and stop the disease of it bury deep inside to become a taboo This is just one crazy old blokes view and I appreciated this forum for allowing a insufficient point of view that is my own **** any sick pervert that feeds in these ways These evil people are jokes of the human race and I believe much joy would be shared amongst people with morals if their lives were brutally ruined by 10 fold of their victims. Stamp it out laugh about it talk about it ... take the evil energy away from it and isolate it to shame I would live to see all sexual abusers put together as it is doubtful a death penalty would ever return to the UK Let them all live together is a **** pile You would soon see some of these things return to human beings with true remorse ... only then do you offer help
