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The EU debate - Part III

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  1. paultheplug

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  2. NSIS

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    Er....a two week holiday in Tottenham, actually.

    Full board, mugging is included too!....
     
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  3. Blueman

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    I take it that you've never been to Tottenham then mate.
     
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    I used to live a mile and a half from White Hart Lane.
    Next
     
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  5. Star of David Bardsley

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    People actually pay for your advice on their finances?
     
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    Sir John Major has become the second former prime minister within 24 hours to question the Brexit process, saying there is a “perfectly credible” case for a second referendum on leaving the European Union.

    Speaking shortly after Tony Blair argued in an interview that Brexit could be reversed if the public changed its mind, Major said that the 48% of voters who wanted to remain should not be subject to the “tyranny of the majority”.

    The former Conservative prime minister said in a speech at a private dinner on Thursday that the opinions of remain voters should be heard in the debate about how Britain left the EU, the Times reported.

    In his first intervention over the issue since the 23 June referendum, Major said he accepted the UK would not remain a full member of the EU, but hoped any Brexit deal would mean the UK remained as close as possible to EU members and the single market, which he described as “the richest market mankind has ever seen”.

    Whatever happened with Brexit, he said, he could not accept that those people who voted to remain should have no input on the terms of Brexit.

    “I hear the argument that the 48% of people who voted to stay should have no say in what happens,” he said. “I find that very difficult to accept. The tyranny of the majority has never applied in a democracy and it should not apply in this particular democracy.”

    Major argued that it must be parliament, not the government, that made the final decision on any new deal with the EU, and there was a “perfectly credible case” for a second referendum on such a deal.

    Major was addressing a dinner and question-and-answer session commemorating the 100th anniversary of David Lloyd George becoming prime minister.

    Earlier on Thursday, the New Statesman published Blair’s comments about the possibility of Brexit being halted.

    In an interview to mark his return to commenting on political matters, Blair said he was not predicting Brexit would not happen, only that there was a possibility it would not. “It can be stopped if the British people decide that, having seen what it means, the pain-gain, cost-benefit analysis doesn’t stack up,” he said.

    Such a turnaround could arise in one of two ways, both of them hinging on negotiations over access to the EU’s single market, Blair said.

    “Either you get maximum access to the single market, in which case you’ll end up accepting a significant number of the rules on immigration, on payment into the budget, on the European court’s jurisdiction. People may then say, ‘Well, hang on, why are we leaving then?’

    “Or alternatively, you’ll be out of the single market and the economic pain may be very great because, beyond doubt, if you do that you’ll have years, maybe a decade, of economic restructuring.”
     
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  7. Blueman

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    Sorry. So you're blind then?
     
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  8. paultheplug

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    No
     
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  9. Blueman

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    Just deluded then. No worries mate.
     
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  10. paultheplug

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  11. Blueman

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    Sorry mate but I've got some bad news for you. <laugh>
     
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  12. paultheplug

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    Please do tell
     
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  13. Blueman

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    Nah, you would probably forget what I said.
     
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  14. Star of David Bardsley

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    It's been seven minutes and Hull hasn't liked this post. Something is wrong.

    I've no idea how this argument started but Tottenham is a horrible area though improving.
     
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  15. paultheplug

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    No. I will have it written down here so that I can refresh my memory every two minutes, so go ahead and enlighten me.
     
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  16. Blueman

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    No, it would be too cruel. You rest up now. :emoticon-0100-smile
     
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  17. Blueman

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    No argument mate. I'm just saying that Tottenham's a **** hole.
     
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    It started because Dull won't say why Sarah's law wouldn't be passed in Tottenham and has just used his normal tactics
     
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    He is being polite about the people of Spudland, being dim and not responding
     
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    Austerity or economic ruin? Those aren't the only options. It's a false dichotomy.
    Maybe The Mail and The Express failed to mention that to you?
     
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