Did Large Hadron Collider create TIME TRAVEL? 'Machine shut down after plane vanishes' THE Large Hadron Collider "created a 'time warp' that sent a passenger jet thousands of miles off course" in the blink of an eye and caused a massive power black out, it has shockingly been claimed. By JON AUSTIN PUBLISHED: 13:44, Wed, Aug 3, 2016 | UPDATED: 14:21, Wed, Aug 3, 2016 please log in to view this image please log in to view this image please log in to view this image please log in to view this image please log in to view this image 382 please log in to view this image 29 please log in to view this image GETTY*CERN Conspiracy theorists have sensationally claimed the LCH caused time travel. The huge scientific experiment, which is used to collide particles to discover more about how the universe formed, opened a time portal meaning an Iberworld Airbus A330-300 ended up landing 5,500 miles from where it was supposed to, conspiracy theorists say. Built among miles of tunnels under the Swiss-French border, the complex machine is run by the European Organisation for Nuclear Research (CERN). Claims are now ride CERN scientists shut down the LHC during an experiment immediately after the incident with the plane. An article on website Freedom Fighter Times said: "The power released from the LHC was so strong that it sent a time warp across the planet. "What really happened can best be explained as a massive power outage all across South America." The report said CERN scientists began a series of experiments during which they discovered their testing was "distorting our Earth’s magnetic field and had 'shot off' a 'time wave' towards the core of the planet”. please log in to view this image GETTY LARGE HADRON: The LCH is the biggest scientific experiment on Earth. Tracking showed the wave veered exactly towards the ‘Sun Gate’ high in the Bolivian Andes mountains, the report said. The report added the “initial ‘time wave’ spawned by the LHC” erupted from the ‘Sun Gate’ and headed out towards the space above South America. The wave then “glanced into the path of an Iberworld Airbus A330-300 flown by Air Comet which was ready to begin its descent into Santa Cruz, Bolivia, but then found itself ‘instantly and mysteriously’ over the skies of Santa Cruz, in Tenerife, Spain, over 5,500 miles away”. All 170 passengers and the crew of flight A7-301 were safe, and after 17 hours on the ground in Spain the departed back to Bolivia. The bizarre plane incident is said to have happened on November 1 2009. please log in to view this image GETTY COMPLEX: Cables powering the huge collider. RELATED ARTICLES please log in to view this image Large Hadron Collider 'shut down after causing massive earthquake' please log in to view this image CERN admits LHC experiments could create black holes A day later CERN lost power at the LHC and announced some days later in a statement a bird had dropped a piece of baguette onto the machinery, causing the shut down. The report added: "After this mysterious event CERN scientists shut down the LHC blaming their failed experiment on a bird dropping a piece of bread onto outdoor machinery. "After which their Director for Research and Scientific Computing, Sergio Bertolucci, warned that the titanic LHC machine may possibly create or discover previously unimagined scientific phenomena, or 'unknown unknowns' such as an 'extra dimension'". The report, and other similar ones went onto claim, even after the LHC was shut down, “dimensional distortions” created in South America by the “time wave” continued and caused the Gateway of the Sun monolith to send out what Russian scientists likened to a "digital communication”. This was said to have been blasted towards thousands of Pyramids and other ancient sites in Brazil and the Andes Region, leading to a massive power outage plunging “tens-of-millions of people into darkness". please log in to view this image JONAUSTIN Former Whitby Town councillor Simon Parkes claimed he stopped LCH scientists allowing Satan through So is any of this true? Well it is true that CERN had been testing the LHC on November 1, after it was out of action for more than a year, following a previous power failure. It is also true CERN had to postpone the test runs of the LHC on November 2, 2009, after the bird dropped bread into an external electricity supply cutting power to the machine, as announced in a press release some days later. There are also reports online that flight A7-301 ended up at Santa Cruz, in Tenerife, instead of the same in Bolivia, with 170 passengers on board, with no explanation initially given. RELATED ARTICLES
t is not known absolutely for sure that photons do not have mass. However, there is an experimental upper limit on what that mass could be; and it's pretty darn small. Additionally, if photons had mass, there should be a third possible polarization for light, and electrostatic potentials should fall off as 1 r e − m γ c r ℏ 1re−mγcrℏ . To understand the statement that even light can't escape from a black hole, you have to understand a little bit about how general relativity describes gravity. General relativity says that the presence of mass (or energy or momentum or pressure, etc.) actually bends the fabric of space and time. When the path of a particle is affected by gravity it happens, not because the particle is feeling a force, but because the particle is travelling along what is effectively a straight line path on a curved surface. When you think about it this way, it seems natural that even light should be affected. A black hole is simply the case where space and time are so bent that every single straight line path that exists leads to one single place. (Of course, to be exact, we should say that every path that exists inside the event horizon leads to one single place. Outside the event horizon, there are paths that don't lead into the black hole.) Oct 14, 2006 #3 FunkyDwarf When the path of a particle is affected by gravity it happens, not because the particle is feeling a force, this isnt entirely true as gravity does exert a force. in the example you used youre correct, but if that applied everywhere then two masses at rest relative to each other would feel no gravitational force as there is no inital motion, which im pretty sure isnt true (correct me if im wrong anyone) photons are said to have no mass, or specifically no rest mass, for two reasons. well really theyre the same one but anyway. firstly because an inertial observer can never catch up with a photon and view it at rest. secondly because mass addition requires something traveling at the speed of light to have infinite mass (as a product of its initial mass) which requires an infite amount of energy to accelerate to c. thus nothing with mass can get to speed c, but because the mass addition is a product value something with zero rest mass can. Reference https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/do-photons-have-mass.138395/
Red, is Gavin Wince a crank? I ask because on nights I've watched a couple of his You Tube thingies on time, tired light ad steady state universes and, bizarrely, it makes sense to a dummy like me (though I don't understand the maths at all, but there you go). I always thought that if space was 3D then so must time be anyway, if it is space time. Does any of this make sense to you?
Red, you understand this guff, and I don't want to come over all Sis-like, but Steady State - it would explain a lot and do away with the conceit of Guth's inflation theory. Just seeing that vid of Edgar Mitchell on another thread (okay, he's a bigger crank than Wince). Ties in with the cosmic background radiation too.
Warp drive (traveling faster than speed of light) impossible? https://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/20130011213.pdf
That's the principle of Star Trek. In effect you're not travelling faster than light, per se, but you are bending/contracting spacetime so the distance is less. For instance, if you could contract the M62 down to about ten miles you could travel from Hull to Liverpool in about 6 minutes, and the added bonus would be crushing Manchester out of existence.
How very dare you!! But is it feesible (no, not crushing Manchester) to travel at the speed of light? I've read up on, and seen documentaries on, the way you've described it. In fact it HAS to be done in this way. To try and travel at the speed of light in a linear way would cause one massive problem, which is that even IF it were possible, by the time you travelled to your destination and back everyone you know would probably be old or dead! So it has to be about bending space to create a short-cut, in effect (which btw wouldn't crush the location inbetween meaning Manchester would continue to thrive ) so time for those around you wouldn't be passing at a different rate to you while you were travelling. I find it this fascinating tbh and do wonder whether we'll see it in our lifetime.
The problem with warp drives is they require inconceivable amounts of energy Imagine a number even bigger than Pogba's fee times Ibrah's ego
So basically you'd like Manchester United to do it for you. Sorry but humanity will just have to figure it out for themselves
Would love to see something, however I think humanity will destroy itself before then unfortunately. Like Dr Cox says, intelligent life in the Universe will probably never find or has never found us because it is not possible to run a world that has the power to destroy itself and that needs global collaborative solutions to prevent it from destroying itself. The growth of science and engineering inevitably outstrips the development of political expertise, thus meaning we **** ourselves up. I did prove to myself once that I personally won't ever partake in any means of time travel though. I told myself that I would travel back to that moment and I never showed up.
That's the rub, and travelling at the speed of light means that the energy would be converted into the mass of the universe. That said, there was people in the 18th century that said that if you travelled at more than 70 mph your eyeballs would explode. Still think wormholes is our best bet, though they too incur fantastical amounts of energy to create with current technology. If the universe is a two-dimensional hologram.... well there must be short cuts. But travelling faster than light in these four dimensions would appear to be impossible for matter and energy - i.e. us.
I think personally there is no need to worry about this stuff. It will be like one of those ultra fast trains. the nearest planet outside our solar system is proxima centauri right? 4.5 light years it might take 6 months to get to 0.5C but there are means to do so. then 6 months to get back from it = a 10 year mission. the main issue that exists is gravity and living long enough. i think getting to anothe rsolar system is possible... some day... theres no need to pretend light speed will stop it. its just about survivability
