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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. Windom Earle

    Windom Earle Well-Known Member

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    Corbyn looks to be the most human politician for years imo

    I can't vote for him however as I lost both hands and eyes in a fire fight this morning plus I am a facist
     
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    I don't want a human to represent me in parliament; I want an automaton that simply does what's logical all the time. A cross between Spock and a Cyberdyne Systems T800, please.
     
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    Be reasonable. We appear to have a broken leaf blower in charge already.
     
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    ...and she's not even on 'suck'.
     
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  5. Windom Earle

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    I firmly believe in the Datsun Cherry Party to lead us out of this mess

    Reliable, honest and straightforward
     
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    Meanwhile only in Canada.......pity eh (we love our Red Rose tea):-

    A row has blown up in the Canadian parliament - over the word "fart".

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    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38037187


    When Conservative MP Michelle Rempel accused the government of treating the province of Alberta "like a fart in the room" over jobs, Green Party leader Elizabeth May took exception.

    However, it was not the accusations of inaction which riled Ms May.

    "I heard her say a word I know is distinctly unparliamentary, and I think she may want to withdraw it," the shocked Ms May said.
    "The word was f-a-r-t," she continued, spelling it out clearly so as not to repeat the offending term.

    Decorum
    Ms Rempel, who has represented Calgary Nose Hill since 2011, became equally incensed.
    "Is my colleague actually serious? I just gave an impassioned speech about Alberta jobs, and that's what the leader of a political party has to say? No, I don't withdraw it."

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    Elizabeth May (pictured) stopped Michelle Rempel speaking after she said the word 'fart'
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    Image Social media users have been quick to compare Canada's concerns with those south of the US border
    Ms May was not letting it go, however.

    "Decorum is important, and respect is important in this place," she scolded.
    Unsurprisingly, the row has caused great hilarity on social media - especially in light of the political upheaval taking place just across the border.
    "With all eyes on Trump's destruction of US politics and civil society, a silent but deadly political scandal in Canada," tweeted Josh Greenberg, director of one of Canada's leading journalism schools.
     
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  7. GoldhawkRoad

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    In the north of England, the term is "trump", which is sort of apt now
     
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    Interesting that the greatest fear UK motorists have now is being hit by another driver distracted by being on his or her mobile phone. Together with the on-board, multi-media, interactive, games-friendly computer that most new cars have now, it's a wonder drivers have any time at all to concentrate on where they're going
     
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    Apparently well educated people are the most likely to swear a lot and swear 'creatively', because they have more vocabulary available to them.

    Which makes the compilers of Roger's Profanisaurus the most educated people in the universe. And thank **** for that, you bunch of smunts.
     
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    I still fear the engineered collision for insurance scam purposes marginally more.
     
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    So Trump wants Farage as British Ambassador to the US. Hard to think of anyone with greater diplomatic skills of course, but shouldn't the UK government have a say in this?
     
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    No. Only the people that voted for Brexit - that's how democracy works.
     
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    As both countries appear to be trying to withdraw from the world they will soon be able to make the post of ambassador to anywhere redundant and we will only need our passports to get hospital treatment.

    Apparently 40-50% of adults have what their 'friends' have shared or liked on Facebook as their primary source of news. We are doomed.

    New interpretation of the Trump win - if a black man can be president why not a white moron?
     
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  14. Kilburn

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    The single lane cloverleaf approach on the north side of one of our two major bridges (Princess Margaret) crossing the Saint John River used to have a Stop sign as you joined the former Trans Canada Highway, now just a local arterial road after the TCH was bypassed away from the city.

    That intersection is part of my weekday 10 min commute to work and again home for lunch. Prior to that Stop sign being replaced by a traffic light I was rear-ended three times at that location by distracted drivers, always when in the #1 position awaiting a clear road to proceed onto the bridge. The last incident was by a woman who had followed me for about 7 KM all the way from work - on that drive I was observing her in my rear view mirror conducting numerous non driving tasks, so totally distracted, and it really came as no surprise when she sailed straight into my rear end when stationary at the Stop sign awaiting a break in traffic to proceed.

    I was driving a 2005 Chrysler 300 AWD 3.5L purchased for just $2500 in 2013 so I accepted a $600 cash settlement (body shop estimate was $900) rather than getting insurance involved - I could live with a few minor scuffs on my rear bumper skin. Below is that lady's email to me - interesting. The other two occasions were similar, but I was driving an older 1992 Toyota Corolla 4WD wagon, where I had just replaced the rusted out bumper with a section of steel re-bar and I accepted a $350 cash settlement in lieu of an insurance claim.

    On each occasion, rather than tie up traffic on the bridge the offending parties followed me over the bridge to the other side where we could safely pull over in a layby to discuss business. Another incident resulted in no settlement, but all were distracted drivers - the traffic light now in place is great and prevents that stop/start traffic flow patten, although on a couple of occasions vehicles already on the bridge have ignored their red stop light and narrowly missed traffic proceeding on the green light, with the right of way. After those incidents at the Stop sign, I tended to trat it as a Yield, which was safer preventing a reat=r end colloision, but liable for a police ticket if seen for not making a full stop. So with this sort of stuff going on, I always try to follow a defensive driving style.

    Kids texting while driving are a major problem, sometimes stopped at a red traffic light they do not proceed on green for that reason, and you can see them constantly looking down at their laps, obviously texting - crazy, major fines for such infractions these days, if police can catch them - they can be sneaky these days, catching violators whilst observing as a passenger on a city bus and working as a tag team with a patrol car - the bus height allows the officer to see what is going on in traffic, and they are not distracted themselves.

    "I also went to have a quick visual inspection of my vehicle, to ensure that I also did not miss anything. I have some minor damage, but nothing worth claiming.

    I appreciate you agreeing to the cash settlement of $600. This is the first time I have had an accident and have only ever claimed a broken windshield!

    I will place the cheque in the mail tomorrow. This has really bothered me & today I realized that I need to slow down my pace of life a little - more work/life balance.

    Thanks again & I apologize for the inconvenience that this has caused you."
     
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    Did anyone see the Storyville film 'Jim - The James Foley Story' ?
    An amazing, emotional and ultimately sad film that puts a human face on what was to many, while horrific and brutal, just another killing.
    I'm not ashamed to admit, I shed a tear or two by the end.
    Well worth an hour or so of your time.
     
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    I'm sure it is Stainsey. I didn't watch it, or the Panorama about abuse of the elderly in care homes. The older I get the more I avoid things that will upset me.
     
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    I knew it would be traumatic, so intended to watch it in 20 minute segments over a week or so. But it was so compelling, I had to watch it all in one sitting. What those hostages went through physically and psychologically makes the Deer Hunter and Midnight Express look tame.

    We know that the Islamic State torturers aren't fit to be called human or indeed even animals - but the courage and dignity shown by those journalists, particularly Jim Foley, gives me some hope for the future of humanity. Yet I struggle in my own mind whether Foley might have thought more about what he might put his family through by going to the Syrian war arena, having given his family hell when he had previously been captured and held hostage for many months in Libya before returning safely to the US.

    Something, some forceful influence in his nature, drew him back into danger irrespective of the views of his loved ones. A terrible waste of a decent, talented and youthful man.
     
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    I think, from what I've read, that a lot of war correspondents, like Jim Foley, truly believe that it is their duty to report on the terrible suffering that occurs during the act of war and that if they don't then the stories lose a lot of meaning. To bring this suffering into our living rooms hopefully gives it a human face that we can relate too.......

    Agree totally that Jim, on the face of it, seemed a very noble and decent man....as too does John Cantlie who is still held by those scum.
    I would like to think our government is doing all they can to bring him home but sadly I doubt it.
     
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    In a similar vein, last night I watched the movie "Rosewater" the story of Iranian photo journalist, Maziar Bahari, who was imprisoned and tortured (mentally & physically). His wife was pregnant with their first child during his confinement. He was eventually released after his plight was championed in part by Hilliary Clinton and the story picked up by news media from around the world.

    More on his story:-

    Bahari was born in Tehran, Iran, but moved to Canada in 1988 to study Film and Political Science. His family has been involved in dissident politics in Iran: his father was imprisoned by the Shah's regime in the 1950s, and his sister Maryam under the revolutionary government of Ayatollah Khomeini in the 1980s. She later died of leukemia.[5] He is married to Paola Gourley, an Italian-English lawyer working in London,[6] who gave birth to their first child in October 2009 shortly after his release from prison.[7]

    On the morning of June 21, 2009, during the 2009 Iranian Election Protests, Bahari was arrested at his family's home in Tehran and taken to Evin Prison.[16] In July, while incarcerated, he appeared[17] in a televised confession (broadcast internationally by PressTV)[18] telling his interviewer that Western journalists worked as spies;[19] that he had covered "illegal demonstrations" and "illegal gatherings", and was helping promote a "colour revolution".[20][21]


    His confession was dismissed by his family, his colleagues, and Reporters Without Borders, saying that it must have come under duress. Outside Iran, an international campaign to free him was headed by his wife and included petitions launched by Committee to Protect Journalists, Index on Censorship, International PEN, and groups of documentary filmmakers.[6] Newsweek ran full-page advertisements in several major newspapers calling for his release.[11] US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton spoke publicly of his case.[3][4][22]


    On October 20, after 118 days[23] in jail and charged with 11 counts of espionage, Bahari was released on $300,000 bail. Bahari says he was asked to promise to spy on dozens of "anti-revolutionary elements" inside and outside Iran for the Revolutionary Guard and report to them weekly (a promise he had no intention of keeping).[24] He was allowed to leave the country and return to London days before the birth of his daughter.[25]


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maziar_Bahari
     
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    Talk in France of association membership to the EU coming in

    Fingers crossed

    The 52% can have the UK their way

    You will fail
     
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