The EU debate - Part III

why should they stay at home? why not have them working and have the children in childcare places after a certain age?

 

Difficult one.

You could argue that motherhood is their employment, particularly if the child is below school age.

In my view, it's unreasonable to expect a full time mother to work if she doesn't want to. Especially, if like many, she cannot find reasonably priced and convenient child care.

 

I am much happier having a PM that is big enough to accpt the odd mistake and change her mind rather than try continue with doomed policies because of pride and/or dogmatism.

 

Why in the **** would I choose to have children then pay someone else to look after them?
Once all children are at school, then a part time job during school hours would be fine, but what about with little ones?

 

I agree. I think she could save herself a lot of aggro and embarrassment by not making ill thought through, headline seeking statements in the first place.

 

Encouraging people not to work? How about the amount that we lose to tax "avoidance" and blatant evasion?
The HMRC has been intentionally hamstrung so that arseholes can avoid paying anything like what they should be.
That's far, far more expensive than our benefits bill, but the Mail and Express don't harp on about that every day, do they?
I wonder why?

 

that's OK if you can afford to stay at home
then do whatever you want
just dont expect the state to pay

 

so there's something wrong with one think but you choose to ignore it and bleat about something else

 

I didn't say that there was anything wrong with the benefits bill.
It always needs to be worked on, as anything does, but it's not nearly as big a priority as the flagrant tax dodging in this country.
Can't say that I'm surprised that you're opposed to it though, seeing as it's your profession.

 

You're wasting your time Poll. It would be easier to have a sensible debate with a tin of tomatoes than Pete.

 

you are deluded
I make a point about something and you dont want to admit there's a problem and want to talk about something else
I dont deal with tax dodging

 

I don't want to admit that there's a problem or I disagree with how much emphasis it's given?
It's not anywhere near as big an issue as individuals and companies failing to contribute enough to the society that they benefit from.
There are far too many extremely rich scroungers in this country and corporate benefits are far more costly than individual ones.

You claim that you don't deal with tax dodging, but I'm sure that Alex Ferguson's accountants would've said the same last week.
Looks like they were wrong, doesn't it?

 

Why mums? In this age of equality, that should be 'stay at home parent'.

It's the stay at home mums that skew the perceived gender income bias, and gets quoted instead of the more accurate consideration which should be based on 'wage'.

 

How is that deluded? If anything it could be evasive, if you think he is avoiding the question.
For someone who thinks he is intellectually superior, should know the difference between deluded and evasive.

 

I don't think that they count, do they? It's adults in full-time jobs, IIRC.
The gender wage gap is a load of bollocks, though. I agree with you there.

 

He thinks that it's deluded because I've dared to disagree with his Quran and hadiths, The Mail and The Express.
He prays five times a day while facing the grave of Thatcher, I believe.

 

I'd agree that choosing which parent stays to look after the children should be at the perogative of the family.

If uts more convenient for the father to stay and do it, why not?..

 

The idea is that she'll negotiate the extension before she triggers article 50, as it's obvious to a blind man that 2 years won't be long enough to conclude a deal with the EU.

Her logic is that the 2 years running out will suit neither party as we'll revert to WTO tariffs. I'd imagine the French and Germans will be behind her, whether it'll achieve consensus is another matter.

 

I can't think of anything more emasculating tbh. Each to their own and I know it works for some, but I'd feel as though I'd had my nuts cut off.

 

Just common sense, mate. If the lady is the bigger earner, or it's more convenient for you because of your occupation, why not?.