Off Topic Impact of Brexit on Football

Just been in my local Aldi and they've got jars and jars of Marmite!! I HATE it!!!

 

Not football related but brexit related, which, of course, is the vogue topic again - as well as horrid footballers having the audacity to wear poppies in respect of the tens of thousands of war dead
I never touch, read or God forbid, buy the Sun, it's down there in the fester club along with the Mail
https://medium.com/mosquito-ridge/a-readers-guide-to-****-the-sun-writes-f5778a6a3ab8#.gjk7zspo4

 

All those who tell you Brexit is "the will of the majority" is actually telling you porkies!

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How do you know ? Do you have a crystal ball that tells you how those that did not vote or weren't eligible to vote would have voted. I would suggest that supposedly as those that voted to remain were the more intelligent in our society because they went to university, are middle class they were more likely to vote remain. Maybe because those that voted remain are supposedly better class of people their vote should count twice. No wonder the Aussie's call us winging poms. The rules were set before the vote, the vote was held and remain lost its about bloody time they accepted it. I can just imagine the amount of stick Farage would have got if remain had won and continued to bleat on about it.

 

It could just be me ...but it seems that a few that wanted to remain are doing their best to try and make their predictions of doom come true however they can.

 

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I never read highbrow material!

 

What, like this? http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/nigel-farage-wants-second-referendum-7985017

 

Quote from article 'But the remain side is likely to accuse him of sour grapes and being a bad loser, getting his excuses in early as he braces himself for defeat'.

That's my point just imagine if remain had won 52 to 48 and Farage had gone on about having a second referendum. What stick he would have got from the establishment, but now the shoe is on the other foot it seems its okay to whinge. Anyway not everyone who voted Brexit agrees with everything Farage had to say / says on the subject.

 

IMO Cromer makes a fair point when it comes to making claims about 'the will of the people'. Most people accept that 'brexit is brexit', but it's more than a little irritating that those who voted leave claim that only they should have a say in the terms on which we leave, as the recent bleating about the High Court ruling shows. It's a decision for the whole country, not just a portion of it.

 

Surely a referendum is just that Rick, a decision by the whole country that could be bothered to vote?

 

Personally I just wish these ****1ng whinging Bremainers would do us all a favour, jump on a plane, fu@k off to bloody France and stay there !

 

As I said Dave, 'most people accept that brexit is brexit' but the referendum was a choice between whether to leave or not. It was not a decision about what our relation with Europe would be after that happens. They are two different things and every UK citizen is entitled to have a say in that.

Well, as usual KIO, you make a cogent argument that examines the issue in depth with penetrating insight.

 

There's no ****ing argument, the country voted to leave the cancerous lump on this earth that is the bleedin' EU and the longer the ignorant brainwashed Neanderthals try to reverse what will happen, the longer our economy will suffer for no good reason.

I have every faith that our PM will deliver the will of the people as she is without doubt currently the most level headed leader on the planet

 

You do have a knack of summarising the simplistic emotionalism of leavers with a great aplomb, KIO. Real life isn't as simplistic as that.

 

Oh but it is and that despicable twat who leads the Liberal Party whose name escapes me as he is such an insignificant little worm can go to hell. Second referendum my arse, eight ****ing MP's and he thinks he can overturn the will of the people. If he was on fire I wouldn't piss on the little turd

 

When a discussion isn't a discussion, there's no point in prolonging it. Rant on if you like, KIO.

 

Don't worry I intend to, right up until the fight is finally won an Article 50 is invoked

BREAKING NEWS

Nicola Sturgeon refuses to accept the result of the England v Scotland match

 

48% of the country voted for the status quo, 52% voted for an incoherent vision of leaving. The question was whether we should leave the EU, and I completely agree that the will of the people needs to be respected there. But does leaving the EU mean a Soft Brexit (EEA), Hard Brexit (entirely out), or some mythical brexit where we maintain free trade but restrict free movement? The majority voted to leave the EU, does that give a mandate for a hard Brexit? Is the government position any more detailed than "Brexit means Brexit" yet?

A lot of talk from the Leave campaign in the lead up to the referendum was that the UK Parliament should be sovereign. Disregarding whether you believe that's already the case or not, all the recent court case does is confirm that the government cannot undo legislature without it going through the Houses. Given that, surely it makes sense to have the debate over what Brexit should consist of before triggering Article 50, so that we can make the most of that 2 year negotiation period? At some point the government needs to lay out what it wants from the negotiations, which will become public either directly or through leaks from the EU-side of "secret" negotiations, so as to apply pressure on our government. Public and parliamentary scrutiny will happen either way.