Yes you were. You were the only club that seemed to be steamed up about our takeover. We didn't get it from the mancs, who knuckled down and competed with us.
There's a difference between rich owners and a rich club, (though to be fair, due to your success you are a rich club now).... I believe our owners are amongst the most rich in the country... They just choose to run the club in a sustainable manner... which I wholeheartedly support (after nearly going bust just 7 years ago!!)
Never said we were. I'm pointing out that we only seemed yo get grief of Liverpool over it. We never had the grief with the mancs.
So why did you quote me? Seems completely irrelevant to what I said? Also as you didn't dispute anything can I assume you agree you're basically Millwall who won the lottery?
Our previous owner David Moores(****)sold us down the river to the shysters Hicks and Gillette who saddled us with a debt that almost bankrupted and relegated us, after a bitter court case that the ****s lost we ended up part of the FSG franchise. In stark contrast Edwards sold Utd the Glazers who despite buying them with borrowed money managed to increase their club worth and bring the debt down and secure more success. As you can see it was down to(in our case)Moores choosing the wrong option based on his greed.
Ugh I hate the "They earned it" bollocks. It's all a lottery. Man United and Liverpool had a distinct advantage over London clubs in that there are only a couple of clubs each in that city to share fan base with, compared to the gazillion London clubs. Plus most of the money United earn has **** all to do with football, but from merchandising, its not like the players on the field are earning the merchandising money. **** or not, United still sell a **** ton merchandise, so its **** all to do with their success, since recently they have had none. And even in the 80's when they sucked balls, they still made more money than everyone else. I honestly cannot see why people were so pissed about money clubs when United's financial success in the PL era came about through a combination of good timing with Sky Sports and worldwide coverage, going on to the stock market, and marketing folk tapping up clueless Asians to buy ridiculous merchandise. "Rayne a'Looney score a many goal!!" If their revenue earned was purely prize money from winning football competitions, then you could argue the team "earned it", but that's clearly not the case. United were just the first club lucky enough to win the league in the PL era and have a **** hot marketing team to flaunt that victory worldwide and patent it and slap a price tag on it and sell it to the unsuspecting masses. The modern day fans obsession with the financial side of things, and less so on the sporting aspect of the game as been a worry for me, for the last 10 years to be honest. On one hand people criticize football for being a business, then on the other, the same douchebag fans will obsess about transfer fees, wages, net spend, statistics and all other type of mundane ****. The football fans of old would be turning in their graves to see this ****.
I mention this a lot. Can't be arsed with all the financial mutterings from people. I just want to watch my team win.
Not true. Your revenue in 02/3 was not a lot more than ours. 149m compared to 134m. The season before our revenue was 7th highest in Europe, 143m. Before Roman took over our revenue had been top ten in Europe for a number of years, in part due to expensive tickets. For example in 97/8 our revenue was more than yours: 47m to 45m.
Nice dodge of the actual point. I've not argued about United's spending. Here's the point again. Liverpool have also spent obscene amounts on instant success - over £310m in 3 years (the fact you've won nothing doesnt mean you haven't approached it in the same way ). And now we've established that, you'd have to be pretty stupid not to acknowledge the hypocrisy in criticising United fans for slating Chelsea when this thread is full of Liverpool fans doing the same.
Firstly see my reply to FSG above. Secondly why the double standards in your comments above when you've liked the following post? Liebherr explain please?
It's something to do though, it's a long season and we have to lay into someone. West Ham are the current whipping boys.
