The EU debate - Part III

Pete is special. So is Kusturd

 

Fatty, I'm starting to feel sorry for you as you've exposed yourself, your wife, her daughter, your business, your dogs and your slum tenants to ridicule.

You have to stop basing your arguments on Daily Mail articles. It makes you look like an obese, had to buy a wife, ****s in a garage, family waiting for you to croak to inherit the slum, dog fiddling Hull ****.

 

Which, coincidentally enough!....

 

Trump as President is comical, I think we all know that, even Dull who is just using it as a way to keep people posting while his grey life ebbs away (Pete is genuinely batshit senile and thinks the Don is the next Adolf).

I asked a while back what the handful of far right posters on here (Dull, Pete, Tiddler, Zlatan, Kustard) thought about Gina Miller being subjected to threats of rape and racial attack on Twitter. Only Tiddler had the balls to comment, even though what he posted was the kind of Nazi **** he'd never admit to his Irish paymasters. The silence from the rest of them spoke volumes.

What would the same gang of five tell a black or Mexican woman in the US who is concerned about Trump becoming their president?

@King Kustard you can go first

 

So it stands to reason that with new trade deals with other nations around the world that we would be a platform for sales of goods into an even wider market and thus an even more desirable location to set up business.

Plus emerging markets have a great opportunity due to the growing middle and upper classes for more luxury products where low production costs are less of a factor.

Better terms for trade, with less barriers to entry will naturally lead to higher levels of trade. The amount of change however is up for debate of course.

 

I'm trying very hard to not shoot to many holes in this because it's got some chance providing we can get past country of origin problems and persuade countries to open up their service sectors.

But the key problems are the levels of debt worldwide, the slowing global economy, an increasing level of isolationism of other nations,that our manufacturing base is foreign owned and that we have a relatively low productivity base compared to others.

What's not been factored in is the higher trade deficit due to higher import prices outstripping export growth, as we import the raw materis to make goods then we have higher production costs and therefore inflation wipes out our benefit of cheaper labour costs relatively quickly.
There is a reason why other countries still have relatively few trade deals with countries they don't neighbour and it's because you have to open your boarders to cheaper goods that will cost jobs as well as being able to export more. This is why Trump is proposing 40% tariffs on Chinese goods so domestic companies can be more competitive.

 

http://news.sky.com/story/special-relationship-trump-calls-nine-leaders-before-theresa-may-10652311

Sky News quote Lib Dem leader saying that Trump called others before calling May. (See last paragraph)
More pinko commie bastard reporting.

 

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&s...MIHzAB&usg=AFQjCNF0SQzps-gzGI7HJI7AO_1_63LmCw

Now the loony lefties have taken over the Telegraph...the pinko bastards claiming Trump called 9 other world leaders before calling May (see first paragraph).

 

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&s...MIKDAE&usg=AFQjCNGieMw1vj4rPN6ly3Pbu_ApzZ1ZiQ

And these famous loony lefties are also claiming that he contacted other leaders before contacting May. (6th paragraph under the picture of the Irish leader)
Is there no end to the number of loony lefty propaganda in our media?

 

Which ignores the geography for a start off, oh and the labour costs, oh and the land costs, oh and the infrastructure and logistics costs....

The entire reason we joined the EEC in the first place was because our historical trade links with the former colonies were producing ever decreasing exports, as the World market overtook us. We were increasing trading with our nearest neighbours (common sense) and thus our ****ed up economy joined the EEC.

Thanks to Thatcher our manufacturing industry was decimated, our tertiary economy relies on global business using us as a manufacturing base for the EU market, and our services industry also is reliant on the EU mainland.

Name 3 manufacturers of decent scale that are based in the UK are still British owned and who aren't catering primarily for the EU market?

 

Everything upsets them.

They'll be wandering around stifling free speech and protesting about votes in the name of 'democracy'.

They'll ignore the obvious conclusion that Brexit and the US elections show big chunks of the world are tired of their fascist attempts to be the thought Police.

Their victim creating ideology has failed, even the student campuses are finally waking up and binning them off.

 

What Thatcher didn't destroy, the EU enticed to the mainland with a fair contribution from our money...And before anyone bothers, I've seen the rebuttals, as well as the responses to them.

Cadbury moved factory to Poland 2011.
Jaguar Land Rover has recently agreed to build a new plant in Slovakia owned by Tata, the same company who have trashed our steel works and emptied the workers pension funds.
Peugeot closed its Ryton (was Rootes Group) plant and moved production to Slovakia.
Ford Transit moved to Turkey 2013.
British Army’s new Ajax fighting vehicles to be built in SPAIN using SWEDISH steel at the request of the EU to support jobs in Spain rather than Wales.
Dyson gone to Malaysia.
Crown Closures, Bournemouth (Was METAL BOX), gone to Poland with EU grant, once employed 1,200.
M&S manufacturing gone to far east.
Texas Instruments Greenock gone to Germany.
Indesit at Bodelwyddan Wales gone.
Sekisui Alveo said production at its Merthyr Tydfil Industrial Park foam plant will relocate production to Roermond in the Netherlands.
Hoover Merthyr factory moved out of UK to Czech Republic and the Far East by Italian company Candy.
Hornby models gone. In fact all toys and models now gone from UK along with the patents.
ICI integration into Holland’s AkzoNobel with EU bank loan and within days of the merger, several factories in the UK, were closed, eliminating 3,500 jobs
Boots sold to Italians Stefano Pessina who have based their HQ in Switzerland to avoid tax to the tune of £80 million a year.
UK airports are owned by a Spanish company.
Scottish Power is owned by a Spanish company.
Most London buses are run by Spanish and German companies.
The Hinkley Point C nuclear power station to be built by French company EDF, part owned by the French government, using cheap Chinese steel that has catastrophically failed in other nuclear installations. Now EDF say the costs will be double or more and it will be very late even if it does come online.
The Mini cars that Cameron stood in front of as an example of British engineering, are built by BMW mostly in Holland and Austria. His campaign bus was made in Germany even though we have Plaxton, Optare, Bluebird, Dennis etc., in the UK. The bicycle for the Greens was made in the far east, not by Raleigh UK but then they are probably going to move to the Netherlands too as they have said recently.

 

TOM UTLEY: Forget Trump. The burning question of our time is whether Paxo was sexist over that knitted doll
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/a...e-Paxo-sexist-knitted-doll.html#ixzz4PgNUWZBb

 

Only most of those companies you've listed there aren't UK owned, which ermmm was sort of my point

It's also a cock eyed retort, as the majority of our foreign owned manufacturing plants have located here because we're part of the EU.

Post Brexit and without single market access we will no longer even be on the list of possible sites.

p.s you should really reference that cut and paste

 

I didn't bother reading the whole post but the last sentence is Abe saying "America will be made even greater". Is this the same Abe that will visit Trump next week over his growing concerns around how the US and Japan will work together. I smell fish!!

 

I can't understand Clinton's excuse about using a private server.
During a press conference at the UN, she said that she preferred to carry only one smartphone with one email address, rather than have two devices - one for work and one for personal affairs.
If I was a politician I would prefer to have two of all devices and keep my work and personal life as separate as possible
In business I tend to use email and phone whereas in my personal life I tend to use phone, sms and facebook for communicating with family and friends.

 

Take a sentence from his post, google it and it's all over t'internet. Silly **** is trying to pass it off as his own work to keep a conversation going and fill his dreary day ahead.

 

And a special phone for ordering takeaways....

 

Because remainers shouted down leavers as racist, as with trump. Just deserts in the end

 

Woo hoo, I'm special, you on the other hand are ******. Enjoy your day, Troggy snowflake