Opening match at Boothferry Park - programme

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Der Alte

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I've been sorting out some old documents stored in our loft and, amongst programmes from the early 1990s, I came across a souvenir programme for the opening match at Boothferry Park. I have no memory of acquiring the programme (which was a couple of years before I was born) and I'm a bit suspicious because the condition is so very good - it looks like it's come straight off the shelf. Does anyone know if City printed any facsimile copies in the latively recent past?
 
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I've been sorting out some old documents stored in our loft and, amongst programmes from the early 1990s, I came across a souvenir programme for the opening match at Boothferry Park. I have no memory of acquiring the programme (which was a couple of years before I was born) and I'm a bit suspicious because the condition is so very good - it looks like it's come straight off the shelf. Does anyone know if City printed any facsimile copies in the latively recent past?
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The kit the player is wearing on the cover. When was City's kit ever that combination of amber shirt, white shorts? And what about the blue trim on the shirt? The shirt looks kind of orange too.

http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Hull_City/Hull_City.htm
 
ElTigre said:
The kit the player is wearing on the cover. When was City's kit ever that combination of amber shirt, white shorts? And what about the blue trim on the shirt? The shirt looks kind of orange too.

http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Hull_City/Hull_City.htm
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I took the picture with my iPad under normal room lighting so wondered whether I'd introduced a colour caste. However, having checked back on the original the strip is pretty much as shown in the photograph - a bluish collar, cuffs and stripes on shorts and socks. Also, the shirt colour is a bit different from the amber backing to the "Boothferry Park" line.
 
ElTigre said:
Inform us all.
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Informed everyone on a discussion a while back. After the war City didn't play the first season because of damage to BP. Harold Needler wanted to change the name to Kingston Upon Hull City AFC. (Give us a K... would have been fun) and play in a kit of blue and orange with a badge of the three crowns. However there was uproar over the proposal, and unlike our current chairman, he listened and dropped the plans. The programme was already printed (for some reason they used the same kit on the cover of a programme for a Cup game later in the season as well). There was problems getting the dyes for the black and amber kit so City played the first season at BP in a sky blue kit. Whether it was the difficulty of getting a black and amber striped kit made in the harsh times after the war or Harold Needler wanting a change or not liking stripes, the shirts the following season were plain amber.
 
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Castro's Coffin's explanation certainly seems to fit - the badge shown on the programme is definitely the three crowns.
 
Castro's Coffin said:
Informed everyone on a discussion a while back. After the war City didn't play the first season because of damage to BP. Harold Needler wanted to change the name to Kingston Upon Hull City AFC. (Give us a K... would have been fun) and play in a kit of blue and orange with a badge of the three crowns. However there was uproar over the proposal, and unlike our current chairman, he listened and dropped the plans. The programme was already printed (for some reason they used the same kit on the cover of a programme for a Cup game later in the season as well). There was problems getting the dyes for the black and amber kit so City played the first season at BP in a sky blue kit. Whether it was the difficulty of getting a black and amber striped kit made in the harsh times after the war or Harold Needler wanting a change or not liking stripes, the shirts the following season were plain amber.
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City played in black and amber stripes that season in the cup.
Pre war kit hanging around , colour clash with Blackburn etc

The programme cover was also the same the whole season.
 
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Castro's Coffin said:
Informed everyone on a discussion a while back. After the war City didn't play the first season because of damage to BP. Harold Needler wanted to change the name to Kingston Upon Hull City AFC. (Give us a K... would have been fun) and play in a kit of blue and orange with a badge of the three crowns. However there was uproar over the proposal, and unlike our current chairman, he listened and dropped the plans. The programme was already printed (for some reason they used the same kit on the cover of a programme for a Cup game later in the season as well). There was problems getting the dyes for the black and amber kit so City played the first season at BP in a sky blue kit. Whether it was the difficulty of getting a black and amber striped kit made in the harsh times after the war or Harold Needler wanting a change or not liking stripes, the shirts the following season were plain amber.
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I remember that discussion now.
 
City Man said:
City played in black and amber stripes that season in the cup.
Pre war kit hanging around , colour clash with Blackburn etc

The programme cover was also the same the whole season.
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Was it? Seems reasonable given the costs of doing a different one in those stringent times.
Only ever seen the one from the opening game and one other. Come to think of it that was for another league game not a Cup one.

Nothing has altered, crowds up and down. 18,000 for the league game the previous Saturday, 30,000 for the midweek Cup replay on an afternoon before floodlights. 23,000 at Blackburn, not bad as Blackburn had a population, even with Darwen included,of about 100,000 then.

Found the other one. It wasn't a Cup game.

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I've been sorting out some old documents stored in our loft and, amongst programmes from the early 1990s, I came across a souvenir programme for the opening match at Boothferry Park. I have no memory of acquiring the programme (which was a couple of years before I was born) and I'm a bit suspicious because the condition is so very good - it looks like it's come straight off the shelf. Does anyone know if City printed any facsimile copies in the latively recent past?
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I think this is some coverage of the first game at Boothferry Park it starts at 2.20 second but the whole thing is worth a watch if you haven't seen it before.

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Qatartiger Cambridgetiger said:
I think this is some coverage of the first game at Boothferry Park it starts at 2.20 second but the whole thing is worth a watch if you haven't seen it before.

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That's a great example of Boothferry Legend's videos - thanks for posting it, great to watch. My main query though relates to whether or not the original programme was ever reproduced because the condition of this copy is in such fantastic condition that I just can't believe that it's 70 years old.
Maybe this should be transferred to the history thread.
 
Qatartiger Cambridgetiger said:
I think this is some coverage of the first game at Boothferry Park it starts at 2.20 second but the whole thing is worth a watch if you haven't seen it before.

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Notice the skyblue shirts as per previous post on first game at BP. Clip of a young Don Revie practising his throw ins.

Always thought it was a shame, just as Kops came to prominence that City put seats in the North Stand. When the South Stand was built it meant both ends had a roof high above anyone wanting to sing. North Stand would have made a great Kop.
When the grounds for the World Cup were being considered Boothferry Parks had morevseats of any ground outside Wembley except for Hillsborough and Goodison. We lost out to Hillsborough by one vote. Some of the other stadiums like Roker Park and Ayresome Park had to install temporary seats to meet FIFA requirements.
Don't know why we couldn't have had a game. Hull is furtherbfrom Sheffield than Middlesbrough is from Sunderland, or Liverpool, where they used not one but two stadiums, from Manchester.
 
Castro's Coffin said:
Notice the skyblue shirts as per previous post on first game at BP. Clip of a young Don Revie practising his throw ins.

Always thought it was a shame, just as Kops came to prominence that City put seats in the North Stand. When the South Stand was built it meant both ends had a roof high above anyone wanting to sing. North Stand would have made a great Kop.
When the grounds for the World Cup were being considered Boothferry Parks had morevseats of any ground outside Wembley except for Hillsborough and Goodison. We lost out to Hillsborough by one vote. Some of the other stadiums like Roker Park and Ayresome Park had to install temporary seats to meet FIFA requirements.
Don't know why we couldn't have had a game. Hull is furtherbfrom Sheffield than Middlesbrough is from Sunderland, or Liverpool, where they used not one but two stadiums, from Manchester.
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The hot bed of football that is Middlesborough had two gates in the teens and one in the twenties.
Similarly SAFC in their group games had one in the teens and the other three in the twenties, inc the QF!
 
Der Alte said:
That's a great example of Boothferry Legend's videos - thanks for posting it, great to watch. My main query though relates to whether or not the original programme was ever reproduced because the condition of this copy is in such fantastic condition that I just can't believe that it's 70 years old.
Maybe this should be transferred to the history thread.
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My old man went that day and said it pissed it down. Chances are it should show some signs of being wet at some stage. How are the staples? Pristine?
 
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I've been sorting out some old documents stored in our loft and, amongst programmes from the early 1990s, I came across a souvenir programme for the opening match at Boothferry Park. I have no memory of acquiring the programme (which was a couple of years before I was born) and I'm a bit suspicious because the condition is so very good - it looks like it's come straight off the shelf. Does anyone know if City printed any facsimile copies in the latively recent past?
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The condition looks amazing but it certainly looks original compared to these.

https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-us/...0003/lot-bb6deec5-8205-4c07-9f37-a44500e21eb5
 
Frank Bough referred to trains arriving at Boothferry Halt every 4 minutes. I don't remember that frequent a service!
 
Der Alte said:
That's a great example of Boothferry Legend's videos - thanks for posting it, great to watch. My main query though relates to whether or not the original programme was ever reproduced because the condition of this copy is in such fantastic condition that I just can't believe that it's 70 years old.
Maybe this should be transferred to the history thread.
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Odds on it will be a replica. The original programme was stapled which will be rusty now.
City reproduced the programme during the last days at Boothferry Park and it was given away free in one of the match day programmes. It could have even have been around the time of the 50th anniversary of Boothferry Park 'celebrations' ? v Barnet ? The game which Martin Fish banned Ken Wagstaff and Chris Chilton from attending.
 
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The 'programme' is a reproduction that was included in the August 31st 1996 match at home to Barnet. This match took place fifty years to the day from the Lincoln match.




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