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Off Topic Trump vs Hillary - Who would you vote for?

Discussion in 'Newcastle United' started by Darth Plagueis, Oct 22, 2016.

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Which would you vote for?

Poll closed Dec 11, 2016.
  1. Hillary

    36.1%
  2. Trump

    36.1%
  3. I wouldn't vote/I'd vote for someone else.

    27.8%
  1. Albert's Chip Shop

    Albert's Chip Shop Top Grafter
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    We need to dust off our nuclear bunkers folks....
     
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  2. Darth Plagueis

    Darth Plagueis Well-Known Member

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    This is despite the fact that the candidate that was most adamant on making a decision that was most likely to lead us to war... is losing?
     
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  3. Albert's Chip Shop

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    No.. based the on the fact that there's a dangerous reactionary madman, racist, bigot with no political experience with the nuke launch codes in his back pocket now.
     
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  4. Captainchaos.

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    I agree I think people vote for change born out of hope instead of aiming for more through their own hard work


    Basically you can win votes these days by simply waving a flag around and telling all the grunts they are going to wipe their arses for them.
     
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  5. Joelinton's Right Foot

    Joelinton's Right Foot Worth Every Penny

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    Not to mention that one of his election promises is that he is going to rip up the Paris climate change deal and start burning coal without restrictions, escalate fracking, remove limits on CO2 emissions and build an oil pipeline that was deemed too much of a risk to the environment to be built.

    Let's hope our children can swim!
     
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  6. Captainchaos.

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    He's a sociopath
     
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  7. General Lee Speaking

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    Bog off numbnuts.
     
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  8. It's_all_Greek_to_me

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    Interesting that Clinton won something like 67% of the Hispanic vote.

    Currently in the US and just about everyone on TV is in shock. Be very afraid. It's not just the fact that Trump won - the Republicans also control the Senate. Trump can now effectively push through any law/ measure with the backing of his own party.
     
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  9. General Lee Speaking

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    You are right, but he doesn't have the best relationship with the rest of his party though so it will be interesting to see if he is made to compromise on certain policies. It will be interesting to see how a man who has had everyone around him his entire life suck up to him and do exactly what he says, have to work in the political system that he so loathes where diplomacy and deal making is the way to get things done. Certainly Obamacare will go quickly and he'll give himself and businesses a big tax break - I can't see the GOP blocking any of that.
     
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  10. Travelsick07

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    He's going to have to make compromises. The campaign was showbiz. Some of his policies I actually agree with. Djinas been screwing the world at everyturn, devalueing their currency. Just ****ing hit them with taxes that is tied to fluctuating exchange rates or something. Let's face it, if the dollar was on parity to the yuan, would anyone still produce in the djina or would they produce in the new mexico? Think about it. It's arbitrary.

    Same with immigration. The whole of the southern hemisphere can't come and live in the northern hemisphere. It just doesn't work. So why should we have 2% or 5% of their population come here? Why? They should stay where they are and fix up their homes down there. It's unfair to let in some and not others, so dont let anyone in. All that freedom of movement **** is to do with globalisation anyway. It's failed. Some people got very rich but more people lost their jobs and fell through the net.

    What's the big deal about building a wall? Legal passage will be still possible no problem. If the americans want to build a great big wall why are teh mexicans against it? Maybe it'll stop some of the drug business going north and guns going south, eg help Mexico sort out its massive drug problem.
     
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    The wall is a daft idea because it's an ineffective and expensive solution to a strawman problem. There is already a border fence at strategic places, and the magic of free enterprise means that the drugs still find their way north, through tunnels, on narco submarines, I would guess they still come in via air and ship freight. The US has a drug problem, but the policies that solve it are coming from the left, not the right - decriminalisation was the thing that ended the bootlegging of alcohol after Prohibition, not border controls.

    If Trump pushes ahead with his climate change policies, you'd have to predict it's going to speed up migration of people from the southern to the northern hemisphere, as deserts spread, farmland becomes less productive and food gets more expensive. That's going to be an issue in Europe as much as it is in America. China has been buying up contracts for food production in Africa for decades to come, in order to feed its population, so you're going to see more famines there and resulting political unrest and wars which drive people to leave. The reckless environmental policies of the northern hemisphere are going to cost all of us in the long run.
     
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  12. Joelinton's Right Foot

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    Really what happened for the first time in history is the uneducated white male came out to vote. I've been saying it for years we need to send these states to make their own country. a great example is Nebraska. very little state income tax is paid and their super proud of it. then those idiots support hydrofracking because their idiots, and wouldn't you know it they've have earthquakes on a weekly basis. now their brilliant governor is asking for federal money to fix the problem while his buddy's gas company robbed amd ruined the state. I expect bullshit like this to occur large scale.
     
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    That is the narrative the msm adopted to attack the white working class and it's bullshit. Donald Trump pulled in 2% more of the African American vote than Mitt Romney did, whatever CNN etc are spouting it's just poisonous dribble trying to further divide the people by creating race/class and even gender and what is sadder than this is that not everybody sees through it.
     
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  15. Warmir Pouchov

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    Its all Obama's fault anyway. If he hadn't humiliated him in 2011 after he accused him of not being american Donald may not have felt the need to bolster his ego.



    About 10mins onwards. Gonna be an awkward handover.
     
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  16. Joelinton's Right Foot

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    I was thinking about this the other night when watching the results. In some ways it was a natural reaction to the birther movement, but **** me him and Seth Mayers have a lot to answer for!!!
     
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    Saying that you are more popular with blacks than Mitt Romney is not saying much.

    "Exit polls collected by CNN show Trump won at least 29 percent of the Latino vote in 2016, while Romney won only 27 percent in in 2012. The polls also show Trump won at least 8 percent of the African-American vote, while Romney won only 6 percent."

    So 71% of latinos voted against Trump as did 92% of blacks. Not really much there to contradict the statement that his voters are generally white, or that his success is as a result of an ability to motivate uneducated white voters who stayed home in previous elections.
     
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  18. Hung Drawn and Quartered

    Hung Drawn and Quartered Well-Known Member

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    well, I haven't a clue what's going on
    but I have shares in a company over there and they have shot up today by $2.87 a share :1980_boogie_down:

    about the same amount again when Brexit was announced
     
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  19. Freddd

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    Doesn't specialise in wall construction by any chance, does it ?
     
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  20. Hung Drawn and Quartered

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    <laugh>

    no it's actually a bank, shares are at $37.39 at the moment - do I cash in ?? that's the question
     
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