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The EU debate - Part III

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  1. Stan

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    Beg for help? <laugh>

    From "the others" as you called them? <laugh>
     
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  2. Stan

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    Kustard, what are your views on Haseeb Hameed (the cricketer)?
     
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  3. Archers Road

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    Go to your room, and don't come down until you've tidied it.
     
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    How the Somme's boy soldiers shame today's 'child' migrants, writes RICHARD LITTLEJOHN
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/a...child-migrants-writes-RICHARD-LITTLEJOHN.html

    "Later this week we will be commemorating the sacrifice of those who fought for Britain. This year is particularly poignant because it marks the 100th anniversary of the Battle of the Somme, one of the bloodiest encounters of World War I.
    On the first day alone, British forces suffered 57,000 casualties. Many of the dead and wounded soldiers were teenagers, some as young as 16.
    Between 1914 and 1918, more than 250,000 boys under the age of 18 served in the British Army, many having lied about their age to join up.
    Recruiters turned a blind eye, despite many of the volunteers looking as if they hadn’t started shaving. The youngest authenticated soldier was Sidney Lewis, who enlisted in the East Surrey Regiment when he was just 12 years old and fought at the Somme the following year.

    Hundreds of thousands of young men crossed the Channel to join the bloody fray because it was considered the patriotic thing to do. These days the passage of men of military age is all in the opposite direction as ‘refugees’ flood across Europe trying to enter Britain.
    Plenty of them succeed, too, even though they really should have no legal right to come here. We’re all well aware of the racket which has allowed male migrants in their 20s to be given sanctuary by pretending to be 16 or under.
    Now we learn hundreds of Albanian men arrived here illegally last year posing as child refugees. Half of them had their asylum applications accepted and were placed with foster parents.

    Documents uncovered by the Mail on Sunday also show they’ve been given school places, even though many of them are obviously over 18, which has created ‘safeguarding issues’ and put other pupils at risk.
    Another study highlights the problems caused by some of these so-called ‘children’, primarily their behaviour towards women. Social workers put this down to the ‘gender assumptions of Albanian males’.
    So that’s all right, then.
    It has also been revealed that once accepted as genuine, they are entitled by law to be treated as ‘children in need’ and must be cared for until they are 25 if they stay in full-time education. Taxpayers have to pick up their university costs.

    What kind of madness is this? Set aside the fact that we shouldn’t be taking in anyone from Albania, unless they have a job requiring special skills and are capable of supporting themselves financially.
    When did the state start regarding grown men of 25 as ‘children’? When I was 25, I was married with two kids and a mortgage. More to the point, millions of men have fought and died in wars well before they reached that age.
    Ever since the migration crisis began, I’ve been drawing attention to the fact that most of these ‘asylum seekers’ are fit young men about whom we know nothing. They all claim to be fleeing conflict.
    But if their home countries are so dangerous, why haven’t they brought their female relatives with them? Where are their mothers, sisters, aunties and nieces?
    What kind of man runs away to safety, leaving the women behind?
    And why should we be expected to give them house room, full board and lodging and pay for their education until they are 25?
    Even to ask these questions is to be labelled a heartless racist by the hand-wringing classes. But that doesn’t make the problem go away, nor does it provide an adequate answer. Imagine if during the two world wars, most of the able-bodied young men in Britain had turned tail and boarded the first boat to America, demanding asylum.
    Precisely. They’d have been shot as deserters.

    In another lifetime, boys lied about their age to join the military and serve their country.
    Now grown men are lying about their age, pretending to be children, and travelling across continents so they can seek a safe haven in Britain.
    And, more fool us, we’re letting them get away with it.
    If the teenage heroes of the Somme could see what kind of insane society our nation has become, they’d wonder what the hell they had been fighting for."
     
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  5. pieguts

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    It is if you are a doom and gloom merchant and constantly think the the first thing you will hit will be the ground. If you have just a little more faith, then your fall could be broken by any number of outcomes.
    Glass half full or glass half empty?
     
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    Littlejohn seen a lot of combat has he? Or is just he a quivering spineless **** like your tragic self?
     
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    I have great regard and respect for any man who had to sacrifice his life so futilely. But this is nothing more than jingoistic bollocks...
     
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    <wah><wah><wah><wah><wah><wah><wah><wah><wah>
     
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  10. The Prime Minister

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    I bet if you were sent to fight you would cower at the back.

    Until they shoot you for being a coward.
     
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    Only a complete **** like Mail columnist Littlejohn could somehow manage to relate Asylum seekers to the Somme

    This made me chuckle;

    http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Richard_Littlejohn
     
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    Whereas you'd be a ****ing hero I suppose?

    Until they shot you for being a twat.
     
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    You'd be at the front mate, in the cannon fodder regiment.

    We'd be in a tent about 10 miles away having a brandy and a smoke whilst moving tin soldiers round a map.
     
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    I would get a VC, you would get the white feather
     
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    95% of Victoria Crosses are awarded posthumously. So I expect there'd be a lot of people willing to help you with that.
     
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    The question was this:
    "Aren't you damaging the cultural heritage of the country by being here then, going by your standards?"
    You haven't answered it and the quoted section doesn't even vaguely address it.
    We don't all have a god. Utter nonsense.
     
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    I think the authors related link gets to the heart of it
    http://www.eureferendum.com/blogview.aspx?blogno=86256

    Article 50 isn't fit for purpose. Hastily conceived and added as an afterthought.

    It says trigger in accordance with UK constitution and also says you are automatically out after two years, which actually breaches UK constitution, EU law would no longer apply to us but our law would still say we have rights under EU law.

    The sooner both sides acknowledge this and lay out a sensible framework the better. The government does not need to go through the supreme Court if they send an Article 50 with strings attached and I suspect the supreme Court will accept the government's right to trigger A50 providing the terms are in accordance with our laws, which is actually what A50 demands.
     
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  18. The Prime Minister

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    Sadly for you, I would survive, and will be in the firing squad to shoot you.


    Bang, you are dead coward snowflake.
     
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  19. Tobes

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    That's what most of the cannon fodder regiments thought unfortunately :(

    Officers like Hague insisted on sending them over the top to certain death though.

    A bit like UKIP with Brexit <ok>
     
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    Why is Littlejohn complaining about what "our" taxes are paying for? He lives in America.
    Here's his house: http://virtualglobetrotting.com/map/richard-littlejohns-house/view/google/
    You'll note that it's quite close to the beach and absolutely ****ing miles from Britain.
     
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