Match Day Thread Trump v Clinton

I didn't put words into your mouth.

You said "Trumps really not a complete ****ing moron. Not even close. He may be many things, but he sure as **** is not stupid."

I was merely refuting your statement.

 

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This whole thing is a bit Ali G In da house...

Innit

 

Trump will probably lose but I have been amused at how enraged liberals have got about him, calm down dears.

 

Yeah cos it's nowt really, is it?

 

Change and revolution never happened peacefully and without risks.

 

When elitism fails the common people, populism steps in with promises of sweeping away corruption and starting afresh. Happened in Rome 2000 years ago and led to a succession of civil wars. Happened 70 years ago and led to genocide. Populism's dangerous but a populist is simply an opportunist who takes the opportunity to rail against incompetent and corrupt elites.

 

He keeps on denying he mocked that disabled reporter but he did.

 

Someone I know has made quite an amusing website about the Trump...

http://www.stopdonaldtrumping.com/

 

Does the US election require winning by a certain margin or just the majority?

 

A simple majority is all a candidate needs.

 

Please tell us the source of your "information". Did you read it? Watch TV 'documentaries'? Have lengthy discussions with someone genuinely "in the know"? Have you lived in the US for several years? This is a genuine question, and I would honestly like to know the answer.

 

Not even the popular vote is required.

 

To save me googling. A report I heard on the radio was saying that, the college system in America effectively means that each state has so many votes based on population density, and then the votes transferred to representatives. So some states are 'worth' more than others.

The report went on to say that, irrespective of the vote, some representatives are saying that they wouldn't go with the decision of the electorate and would refuse to sign of their representation. Seemingly some states have no penalty to do stop this, and in the others, it was a maximum $1,000 fine.

How are the representatives chosen? If they are obliged to submit the vote as recorded, what's the point? If they're not obliged to, then what's the point in voting?

 

First Brexit, now Trump.
Wonder if there'll be a bid by the lawyers to block the result if Trump wins?

 

That's the problem with representative democracy. The representatives you elect don't always live up to their election promises or represent the views of their constituents. A good example of this is the EU referendum in this country. Hull collectively voted overwhelmingly to leave but all three of Hull's Labour MPs are staunchly pro-EU and Alan Johnson has said he wants another referendum. There's a huge disparity between MPs and their constituents in this country, just like there's a huge disparity between Americans and their Congressmen and Congresswomen.

 

You must have 270 electoral votes out of the 538 that exist. The electoral votes are based partly off the states population and the number is reached with 100 Senators, 435 Representatives and 3 votes for the District of Columbia. The twelfth Amendment to the Constitution provided the current form which was an adjustment from Article II, Section 1, Clause 3. There are a number of other Amendments and laws that are involved here but these are the main ones.

Article II, Section 1, Clause 3

The Electors shall meet in their respective States, and vote by Ballot for two Persons, of whom one at least shall not be an Inhabitant of the same State with themselves. And they shall make a List of all the Persons voted for, and of the Number of Votes for each; which List they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the Seat of the Government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate. The President of the Senate shall, in the Presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the Certificates, and the Votes shall then be counted. The Person having the greatest Number of Votes shall be the President, if such Number be a Majority of the whole Number of Electors appointed; and if there be more than one who have such Majority, and have an equal Number of Votes, then the House of Representatives shall immediately chuse [sic] by Ballot one of them for President; and if no Person have a Majority, then from the five highest on the List the said House shall in like Manner chuse [sic] the President. But in chusing [sic] the President, the Votes shall be taken by States, the Representation from each State having one Vote; A quorum for this Purpose shall consist of a Member or Members from two thirds of the States, and a Majority of all the States shall be necessary to a Choice. In every Case, after the Choice of the President, the Person having the greatest Number of Votes of the Electors shall be the Vice President. But if there should remain two or more who have equal Votes, the Senate shall chuse [sic] from them by Ballot the Vice President.

XII Amendment

The Electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and all persons voted for as Vice-President and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate.

The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted.

The person having the greatest Number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice. And if the House of Representatives shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve upon them, before the fourth day of March next following, then the Vice-President shall act as President, as in the case of the death or other constitutional disability of the President.

The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice. But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.

 

Hull = pro Brexit
Council= Remainiacs
MPs= Remoaners also
Yet Corbynista Council have no confidence in our 3 non Corbynista MPs, and the electorate voted against both of them in the referendum.

 

By claiming I think:

Uhm.

That's not simply refuting **** all, that's suggesting I think something I do not.

 

Having said all I've said on here, I actually think Trump will narrowly win. I think the feeling is there despite largescale media denial.