The EU debate - Part III

With any vote you will always get an element of people being led by others, the media or other less tolerant beliefs. I would go as far to say that some of those who voted remain probably have some unsavoury views on subjects such as immigration.
The fact remains, which PNP seems to want to dismiss, is that the remain party could not get the message across. Now he is pretty much saying ignore the referendum and get the politicians doing what we pay them to do.

 

I haven't dismissed it at all. I've said that's exactly what happened and why.
I'm not pretty much saying that the referendum should be ignored, either. I'm saying exactly that.
No pretty much about it.

It was based on a load of crap and was a marginal victory.
Farage himself said that wasn't enough of a mandate, until his side won.
Throw it out and renegotiate with the EU on the bits that we don't like, whatever they're supposed to be.

 

This is a football forum, with a dozen people who contribute to this thread, with the general intention of causing mayhem, hardly representative.

 

It's still more coherent than a lot of the debates that I saw before the vote though, unfortunately!

 

Courtesy of the Spectator.

.....if Leave won the referendum, the Remainers would whine piteously and refuse to accept that the result was democratic and binding. That is how many of them are. People entirely unused to being gainsaid, unused to not getting their way. So they shriek and scream and stamp their little feet and there are tears before bedtime, and after bedtime on the social media websites. Effusions of disbelief, sorrow and sadness — and a real, visceral loathing of those who had a different opinion to them.

‘Hate won!’ a hilariously silly cow, sobbing her eyes out, said on a video now doing the rounds among the jubilant Brexiteers. Well, maybe it did, my little poppet. But it also lost. There seems to me rather more hatred among the Remainers, or ‘remnant ponces’ as Julie Burchill called them, than there ever was among those who wished to get the hell out. Hatred towards the elderly, hatred towards people who don’t live in London, hatred towards people who do not share their views. But it is the mindset of the liberal elite that hate could not possibly exist within them, just as they are utterly convinced that they are our intellectual superiors. All the Brexit voters were thick, whereas we know so much better....

...the continual intimation that anyone who was pro-Brexit was a hate-filled xenophobic ****bag about to go out and lamp a Pole. Leaving the European Union was a racist thing to do, apparently. Or the thing racists did....

It goes on in a similar vein and every sentence accurately reflects the attitudes demonstrated by those on this forum that have declared themselves remain voters.

 

Anyway, I see May is now hoping to use a 1 day motion to push through with triggering article 50, instead of putting it before a proper parliamentary bill.

Expect to see the judges quash her again with this.

 

That's your view, 17 million will disagree.

 

And far more than that didn't vote for it.

 

You've been whining since the court ruling

In fact it brought out the full on, racist Nazi in you and you've been throwing "BREXIT MEANS BREXIT" windmills ever since

 

We see perfect examples of how undemocratic the left is.
If they lose a vote of the people they scream and cry and say it doesnt count because "people lied", "the voters didn't understand what they were voting for" or it was all "the fault of the media".
They don't believe in voting. They think they should just automatically get their own way.
Remember what it used to be like in the Soviet Union:
"In theory, citizens selected the candidates for election to local soviets. In practice, at least before the June 1987 elections, these candidates had been selected by the local Communist party, Komsomol, and trade union officials under the direction of the district (raion) party organization. Voting took place after six weeks of campaigning. Though voters formally had the right to vote for or against the unopposed candidate, until 1987 all candidates usually received about 99 percent of the vote."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_democracy#Elections_in_the_Soviet_Union

 

What is wrong with that? The people voted to leave the EU.

 

Can they?

 

It's amazing how on the one hand they can be so condescending and arrogant and yet on the other be completely in favour of living under the yoke of a nanny state. Not even a domestic one at that!

 

He thinks the judges should be able to do anything that he likes.

 

You're batshit crazy if you think everyone who voted Remain is a Communist. If everyone pigeon holed people the way you do, your missus and her daughter wouldn't be allowed in the country and you'd have to wipe your own arse.

The far right....

Nigel Farage: Narrow Remain win may lead to second referendum

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36306681

Donald Trump claims Hillary Clinton is 'protected by a rigged system'

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...tem-as-us-presidential-election-a7401671.html

 

Written by Rod Liddle, of The Sun and The Sunday Times, who were major parts of the Leave bullshit.
A self-confessed **** who's had to defend himself against accusations of racism about a million times.
He's complaining about people calling him on his obvious bigotry.

 

It was s simple yes / no which was then counted. No matter how you dress it up leave won. For those of us who voted remain, it was disappointing, but we all knew it could happen. All I'm interested in now is getting through this as painlessly as possible.

 

What's clear is that Pete and God's Tiddler have gone loopy with anger since Gina Miller defeated the government. Lovely!

 

If you don't agree with somebody you call them a bigot despite not even appearing to know what a bigot is.

 

I'm not disputing the result of the referendum, but it was clearly a non-binding one.
You don't want to ignore it, but I do. I'm entitled to think that it was a load of old ****, aren't I?