A quote from 6 weeks prior to the vote: The question of a second referendum was raised by Mr Farage in an interview with the Mirror in which he said: "In a 52-48 referendum this would be unfinished business by a long way. If the Remain campaign win two-thirds to one-third that ends it." http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36306681 So no ..he would not have accepted it at such a tight margin (unless of course it was merely ..advisory and 'aspirational' ..like the £350 million a week for the NHS was ...after the event) Edit (started reading more articles about this ): Nigel Farage warns today he would fight for a second referendum on Britain in Europe if the remain campaign won by a narrow margin next month. The Ukip leader said a small defeat for his leave camp would be “unfinished business” and predicted pressure would grow for a re-run of the 23 June ballot. Farage told the Mirror: “In a 52-48 referendum this would be unfinished business by a long way. If the remain campaign win two-thirds to one-third that ends it.” The threat by a veteran of the Europhobic struggle to pull Britain out of the European Union illustrates why David Cameron is desperate for a decisive result to avoid “neverendum” uncertainty in the country and Tory ranks. The Ukip leader’s declaration of defiance raises the prospect of theBrexitbrigade copying Scottish Nationalists chivvying for a second independence referendum since losing by 55.3%-44.7% in their 2014 plebiscite on breaking up Britain. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/nigel-farage-wants-second-referendum-7985017 So He wanted a second referendum if it was a tight margin ...interesting how that has dissappeared off the agenda..like every other promise/claim made
I understand that one of the conditions of Article 50 is that the Constitution of the leaving country has to ratify the agreement. The Constitution is clearly with Parliament and not as a referendum. The referendum just gets the process started. It's now down to the legislature to decide whether to continue with it. And that's the terms of Article 50. Which is why the High Court decision was the correct one and which side of the divide one is on doesn't matter. Oh and by the way, we do have a Constitution. It just happens not to be written on two sides of A4 which seems to confuse a lot of people.
Probably find someone has already made this point by the time I get to the end but here goes. Once the Brexit decision was made we should have had a General Election. All parties should have set out their view of Brexit and let the people decide which version of Brexit they wanted. What we have is a Government who collectively didn't want Brexit now fumbling its way through to try and achieve a version of Brexit which is supposed to represent what the Public want when they have no idea what it is the Public actually want. Cue irony.
The only reason we don't have a written constitution is that someone made the ridiculous decision to ask for No Chance's help in putting it down on paper.
Just hope this doesn't start developing into EUDebate threads on the Premier League board. I wasn't sure whether we had a policy on here of No Politics threads as well as No Tits. However we seem to have relaxed the latter as Fredor has been posting on here a lot the last few weeks.
Where the hell does this concept of a non-written constitution come from? It's written, very much so, but, as I say, it's not written in bite-sized Yank-friendly digestible format. It's written alright; throughout thousands and thousands of legal tomes and the problem is not that it's not written but there's so much of it. I used to have, as one of my clients (a lifetime ago), one of the law firms which was Her Maj's lawyers and one of the things that they would be doing was to keep a close eye on the Constitution. Yes, it is written alright and it does exist. It's just that the this part is large and very, very tangled.and makes Jarndyce and Jarndyce* look rather straightforward. * for those who don't know: a 'quick' read of Bleak House will reveal all.
And that was with a 'local' MP as prime minister too. I look at Nearly, i.e South, Wales and I wonder how on earth they still vote Labour. I wonder because if Labour did as they promised then the lot of the working man (or unemployed working man) would have been improved to the quality of life that is on offer to the working class in the likes of Germany and Norway. The Labour party would be out of a job if they raised the standard of living of the working man which is why, like the unions, they try but not too hard. And this is from someone who comes from a long line of Labour, socialist and Communist activists.
God knows what they think. It's all irrational. If the voters were rational then they'd be behind a left wing party that stood for the working class. If there were one, that is. Secondly, a lot of these hideous attacks on the poor that we're seeing initially came from the Labour party. The Tories missed the opportunity to go for the moral high ground by compounding the assaults in the poor. And, little wonder, UKIP hoves into view.
Hang on **** for teeth ! When did I say or suggest that? My comment was a direct response and also I clearly stated everyone is entitled to their opinion Not sure why you're having a go a me mate Chill winston
I voted remain but this is ridiculous if we end up dragging it out and not good for the economy. honestly I dont think the government have the first clue where to start with exiting anyway which actually is quite understable as the amount of considerations is mind boggling and this is totally unprecedented.
I wasn't having ago mate and if it seemed it - apologies. I understand the dislike for Conservatism in parts of the north but I despise New Labour and its vile neo liberalism. Just pointing it out.
Cool mate sorry for calling you **** for teeth I hate all of them it's simply picking the one I believe keeps my best interest closest
New Labour made a decision in the late 90's. They took the decision to betray the working classes of the country and simply import a new voting block. Vile and treacherous but what can you expect with Blair, Mandelson, Straw, Roche and the like.
Thatcher betrayed the tight knit working class communites, shattering them in many places. Blair decided to declare demographic warfare on the country. I will always hate the latter more but I can understand your grievance.
I miss the relative calm of British Politics. While Brexit may have caused significant resentment its nice to be allowed to express your views openly without fear of repurcussions. Just started the Jakarta Governor elections here. Incumbent and favourite is an ethnic-Chinese Christian who has outraged the Muslim extremists, (especially after he told them that he didn't think the Qoran instructing Muslims to only be commanded by other Muslims should be interpreted as meaning they must not vote him in again) . Hence a mass Muslim fundamentalist demonstration here today which may well turn ugly and with a security force larger than a Sunderland 2nd half crowd being mobilised. Good day to stay out of the City Centre. http://sea-globe.com/jakarta-governor-protests/ I am the one with the tea towel on my head front centre
