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The EU debate - Part III

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  1. Tobes

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    Yeah democracy is a terrible thing eh.....
     
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    The mainstream media peddling bullshit caused Brexit.
    You lot believing the crap that the Mail, Express, Sun, etc have been shoveling down your throats for decades was behind the whole mess.

    Why do you keep going back to US politics from decades and decades ago?
    Southern Strategy: Google it. The Republicans are the current racists. It's not even debatable.
    They've openly researched how to stop black and latino voters from being able to vote, then acted on that research.
    Trump is backed by the KKK and the ex-Grand Wizard, too. He's an obvious racist.
     
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    Who is he trying to influence with this nonsense propaganda? There are three people on the thread up his arse regardless and everyone else thinks he's just an obese xenophobe.
     
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    Anyone claiming that the current Democrats are a more racist party than the current Republicans is absolutely bat **** mental.
     
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    I rarely read the papers you mention.

    Brexit and Trump are a symptom of, amongst other things, people rejecting the left wing facism shoved by a noisy minority.


    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/apr/26/klan-leader-claims-kkk-has-given-20k-clinton-campa/

    http://edition.cnn.com/2016/11/01/politics/donald-trump-kkk-crusader-support/
     
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    It's just an outlet for his hatred of foreigners. It's not like he could express those views to his clients or the checkout girls at Tesco.

    Which is why it's bizarre that he uses his own name. Imagine if one of his clients stumbled upon the hatred and bile he spouts!
     
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  7. Stan

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    <laugh>
     
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    Why are you upset?
     
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    No, you read ****ing Breitbart and other similarly batshit alt-right nonsense.
    I could tell by your language, as you've adopted their whole weird way of talking.

    Brexit and Trump are a symptom of idiots listening to arseholes.
    The former's a joke and the latter's a rapey con-man.
     
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    http://edition.cnn.com/2016/11/01/politics/donald-trump-kkk-crusader-support/

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/apr/26/klan-leader-claims-kkk-has-given-20k-clinton-campa/
     
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    The vote in the commons was on having a referendum, nothing else.

    The referendum was advisory and not binary, it was therefore an opinion poll that had no legal ramifications at all.

    All of which is irrelevant to todays ruling, as May was trying to circumvent the democratic process of the House voting to overturn the 1972 act that took us into Europe, which would then therefore trigger the invoking of article 50.

    She lost because the 1972 act gives UK citizens rights that will be lost as soon as we exit the EU. She therefore has to get Parliamentary backing to overturn the act. Without it she is acting unilaterally and that's not how the process works. She has never had a mandate to activate article 50 and remove UK citizens rights off her own back.

    The entire reason she was trying to avoid a vote on what will presumably be a new bill was because they'll have to lay out a strategy that is then accepted by the House and then the Lords, and their strategy is seemingly on the back of a *** packet as it stands. Winging it doesn't even come close.
     
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    No as pie has already said the MPs have already voted in favour of implementing A50. The difference if it goes to parliament is A50 will come with strings attached.
     
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    If only you'd read the article, or waited, <doh>
     
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    Former Republican Presidents are voting for her, though.

    His campaign's bound to try to shake off unpopular groups. They aren't bloody amateurs.
    Trump is, though. He's retweeting the ****ers relentlessly:
    http://www.politicususa.com/2016/07...mp-retweeted-white-supremacists-75-times.html
     
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    So why are some (MPs) saying we should use the court to get another referendum?
     
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