My favourite ever post on 606 this one. Wonder what happened to Geoffrey. http://www.not606.com/threads/o-t-h...ft-carrier-to-be-moored-in-hull.198423/page-3 "Realistically the ship needs to be moored in the centre but there is a real shortage of usable moorings for a 700ft long ship. There is no point sticking her down Hedon Road in King George Dock because nobody will go out of town and I doubt she will fit through the lock gates. I can only see two places for her to be moored. Either moored next to Victoria Pier but I doubt the conservation lot would want the view lost by an aircraft carrier or the river side (south side) of Albert Dock where Harding Cargo Handling is. Its deep enough water and can easily fix some dolphins to hold her in place. It has to be walking distance from the city centre!" Realistically Speaking!!! 1. The ship is too large both in beam and length to pass through any lock gates in any dock in Hull. This means it would have to be moored in the river and to permit regular, full day access it would have to be moored onto a floating pier or jetty. The ship would have to be accessible to the disabled so the visitors would have to have access to internal elevators and across watertight bulkhead openings. 2. Floating piers and jetties cost MEGA money. 3. Ships have to be maintained. For a vessel of this size an annual budget of £100, 000 would just about cover the cost of the above waterline paint. Then there is the steelwork replacement, the vessels generators (if on it's own power) and pumps etc. for sanitary and washdown purposes etc. etc. 4. Ships have to be drydocked periodically to inspect the underwater surfaces and repaint with anti-fouling and anti-corrosive coatings. It is too big to be drydocked anywhere in the Humber so will have to be towed to somewhere where it can be drydocked. i.e the Tyne, possibly the Weir or even a continental port. More MEGA money. 5. If a new pier were to be built there would have to be a considerable amount of silt removed by dredging to give the necessary depth of water for the ships draft. Then the area below the ship would have to be maintained silt free and that is more BIG money. Plus clearing the channel each time the vessel were to be moved out for drydocking - even more BIG money. 6. Who would staff the ship? It would not be sufficient to put on board a night watchman or a caretaker like they have at the other council owned facilities. There would have to be certificated deck and engineer officers in case of problems with fire, or breaking adrift or accident and trained and qualified personnel for cleaning etc. More BIG money. 7. If the ship were to be on shore power it would reduce the maintenance and fuel bill for on board generators. That's a plus but who would foot the power company bill? More MEGA money. 8. The towage fees to move the vessel here plus the costs associated with converting it to be it safe in the eyes of the Health and Safety, with wheelchair accessibility and adequate fire exits to the shore would itself bankrupt the council. 9. Finally and because I have run out of time , not out of points of note or concern, don't forget the cost of marine insurance, registration and survey all of which will be necessary if the vessel is to have visitors on board. Then we have the councils own Health and Safety "officers"...say no more. The truth is the project is ill conceived, has not been thought through and is totally beyond the financial resources of a city who's council even cannot afford to keep all of their public libraries open.
Goeffrey is still pacing out each dock looking for a 700foot long berth He's also calculating which potential club owner has MEGA money and which only has BIG money
Could they just not park it behind the Dutch ferry. They could then have a gangway onto the side and Bob's your uncle. Alternatively they could have the gangway leading from the front of the cruise liner onto the back of Pride of Hull and vacate the vessel that way. Whats so hard about that.
I hope Cllr Geraghty doesn't read that. He will think it is a serious suggestion and put it forward at the next council meeting.
Could be total chaos with 25,000 heading there plus people without tickets. Its a pain for the farmers market.
Like the ****witt did when announcing plans for a new ice rink and 'Olympic sized' swimming pool for the Albion Street car park ( one of the only bomb sites from WW2 left anywhere in Europe)..........yeah great idea councillor but shouldn't you have measured the site first ? It was about 20 metres too short.
How do they get these jobs?? Mind you it was jobs for family and mates for decades. Its all changing now i believe.
My missus works for council and a lot has, and is now going to private companies. She works in care and thats just changed over to a different company.
Not to mention his statement that the ice rink could heat the swimming pool as he had noticed the heat at the back of a fridge.
It's true that ice rinks and swimming pools are built together, as refrigeration does generate heat that can heat the pool, he just worded it really badly because he's a cock.
Someone on Burnsy said that only Hull people should be allowed to buy tickets. Considering it is going to be in the East Riding there is a certain weakness in his point. Maybe they should build a giant cover to stop anyone, especially those not from Hull seeing them for free, as anyone can anyway. Burnsy pointed out to him that the idea of City Of Culture is to attract people from outside of the city to events. They manage to get 70,000 in Roundhay Park in Leeds on Bonfire Night with no problems. Just reading that Leeds Council has 5 official bonfires and fireworks displays on Bonfire Night with loads of private ones. In Hull there is no council ones and just a privately organised one on Bransholme.
I tried at just after 8am and had no problem getting mine. I was in the queue but only about 800th. Took 5 minutes or so to get in. The only real issue was that the button to actually buy tickets was a bit hidden at first.
