Had a fantastic day in London with my wife today for her birthday. Went to Benihana's this afternoon, a Hibachi restaurant off Piccadilly, and then this evening to see The Bodyguard, with Beverley Knight (shows just okay but BK is awesome when she let's rip). A few beers in the West End before heading back to the hotel. And I'm still so bloody angry!!!! How has my club become the laughing stock in English football? What the **** is Short doing to my club?
Good to hear you had a great day out with wifey. Don't worry about Sunderland, results will come later in the season.
Cheers mate. As for us, that ship has already sailed. There may be a few good days this season but there's some kind of cancer in the club that's crippling it from the inside. When you guys were relegated you could already see some seeds of hope for this season. Your owner stuck with your manager and invested wisely to get you back into the PL. And it's visibly paying off. I don't see us having the strength in depth that you have to get us back, as you will this season. Tonight I'm utterly depressed about my club.
Your being polite there. I am f*cking seething about every part of our club apart fromm the fans. Owner = W*nker Players (most of) = w*nkers Manager = F*cking clueless
Not the case though, sold off their expensive quality players to fund signing of players capable of getting them promotion. They will have to lay out a fair bit to sign Premiership quality once they are up. No silver bullet in football.
The horrors of 2006 are back to haunt us what the hell is going on ? is this worse than back then ? and why.
This is where you lot may struggle if you go down. I'm not fully in tune with your squad, but do you have a two or three players that would raise substantial funds to allow you to fully rebuild? That is effectively what we were able to do. Sell off some players that had no interest in playing for us in the Championship (or the PL at times) for big money and rebuild with a squad tailored for Championship life. Yes we will have to add some better quality players if we go back up, but first things first and all that. Short seems reluctant to invest in a big way at the moment. Would that change if you went down?
Exactamundo!! Regardless of all of the above and the truths of it. Us, the supporters, will keep on going. Although I have to say I was disgusted at the "we're ****ing ****" song. We're against Arsenal and they were better than us. Probably not 3 goals better but Januzaj (well, Moyes decision to bring him on rather) cost any slim chance of a draw! Up until their second went in we were doing ok. We dropped as soon as that went in and that was it.
And therein lies part of the problem. Short wont give a **** once he has your season card money whether you go or not.
We have **** all mate, and Short won't invest if we drop. If it happens we're almost certainly ****ed. Might get a little bit for Pickford but he hasn't exactly covered himself in glory recently. Kone will most likely abandon the sinking ship in January, and I think the club even expects it. That's it in terms of saleable assets. Our younguns aren't bad but certainly can't be relying on them to get us promoted from the championship - though I do think Watmore would have a field day down there.
Our squad ain't big enough to start trading players. They're all playing to championship standard anyway, so why change them?
Not sure though billy. If the fans don't go there's still the hundreds of millions coming from sky. Gate receipts are small fry in the football club owners world nowadays. There's far bigger income streams and the Loss of a couple of million (not exactly sure but it's not much more than that) nowadays is not really hitting an owner. It'll always be our club though. Fans who, through thick and thin, have always been there. Not just talking about the ones like myself who go to matches, I'm fortunate enough to be able to afford it, but there's some "proper" fans that can't make it (my neighbour is one, definitely would go but works over seas most of the year). Or those who can't afford it. It's our club, people like me, yourself billy, loads of others on here. Not his. His name is above the door but we'll all still be there long after him and our kids will too (was my daughters first game yesterday)
Wtf are you on about? One mistake against Southampton and been pretty good the rest of the time? Or have you seen something I haven't?
Most money comes from TV ~ £70M, Gate receipts ~ £11M. Short spends ~ £25M a year on top of that to keep us afloat.
He's been miskicking quite a lot recently, and made a few weird decisions imo rushing out to the ball when he shouldn't be. There was a couple yesterday, I think for example he once got caught in no-mans land and Ozil had a fairly easy chip to beat him, fortunately he hit it straight at him instead...
That's where we were fortunate. We had some players that we offloaded for big money. Its allowed us to overhaul the squad and Rafa has tailored it to the Championship. Weather we will hold our own or not if we go up is debateable. The cup draw against Hull should be a decent indicator. Good luck lads. Cutting through all the slaver id like to see a derby game next season, in the PL,
Pickford isa superb goalie in my opinion and I fully expect him to get the Englanf shirt eventully. By that I mean when he leaves us. Kicked a ball out yesterday about 60-70 yards and was perfect for Watmore to run onto. Have Sunderland had a decent goalie in the last few years regarding distribution? The answer is no until this lad came along.
£25m a year? Not sure if thats an accurate calculation but if it were, that's not evenly remotely close what you need to spend just to stand still in th PL, never mind make progress. Therein maybe lies the problem. And when you consider where some or most of that money has gone, you can understand from one perspective why Short may well think enough is enough. The counter to that is that he chose those footballing brains who advised him where to throw that money. And that's down to him, no one else.
